</s>the time that these people came to see the evidence and they 1 2 were there with equipment or even without equipment that no 3 tampering occurred or any alterations occurred with the Sikhan 4 exhibits? 5 Can you tell me that I have your assurance to 6 that effect? 7 A I cannot. 8 There is no way that you can definitely know? 9 A Yes, because we cannot be 100 percent sure even 10 though we were watching constantly. 11 Q My question is: 12 What about the old system, what was there about 13 the old system where this kind of alteration or tampering 14 could take place? 15 In other words, having in mind that you did the 16 best you could. 17 A Right. 18 All right; what is your answer to that? 19 A Having them outside, like I say, there were five 20 gentlomen, there wore five people working there. You know 21 five people have ten hands and you only have two eyes. 22 Your answer is you only having two eyes and you 23 can't watch five people, is that it? 24 A I would say yes. 25 Q Then you didn't know what was going on, really? 26 A I didn't knew what was doing on,really. 27 Do you recall making a statement like that? 28 A Yes. 2025 RELEASE UNDER E.O. 14176

**People:**

* John F. Kennedy
* Lee Harvey Oswald
* Sirhan Sirhan
* Frank R. Patchett (LAPD)
* Mr. Smith (Reproduction Unit)
* Lillian E. Castellano (Kennedy Assassination Truth Committee)

**Events:**

* Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy in 1968
* Investigation into the assassination (various dates and locations)
* Reproduction of Sirhan notebooks by Mr. Smith (date unknown)
* Disappearance of Grand Jury Exhibit Number 52 (date unknown)

**Locations:**

* Los Angeles, California
* County General Hospital (Los Angeles, CA)
* East Lake Avenue (Los Angeles, CA)

**Connections to JFK and the Assassination:**

* Investigation into the assassination of John F. Kennedy
* Reproduction of Sirhan notebooks related to the assassination
* Disappearance of Grand Jury Exhibit Number 52 potentially related to the investigation

**Evidence, Testimony, or Findings Mentioned:**

* Original notations on Grand Jury Exhibit Number 52 identified as Mrs. Nishikawa's marks
* Photocopy of People's 71-Alternate with original notations
* Receipt for return of Book containing photocopy of People's 71, 71-alternate to LAPD

**Dates and Locations:**

* October 30th and 31st, 1968 (Lillian E. Castellano visited the Clerk's Office)
* Various dates and locations (investigation into the assassination)

**Significant Details:**

* Lillian E. Castellano claimed that she had brought a tape recorder into the room outside, which contained evidence of more than one gun firing in the pantry during the assassination.
* The witness mentioned an autopsy report stating that Robert Kennedy was shot three times and Paul Schrade had a fourth bullet wound.
* An experiment with Carl Uecher's testimony showed that Sirhan could not have gotten his hand turned around to shoot Kennedy at the angle described in the official story.

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