Transcript of 166-12c-1_serial_1_65-hq-587_12.4.68-part_2_of_8.pdf

================================================== Page 1 ================================================== Fu-302 (Rov. 4-15.64) FECzRA! B6 REAU Of INVEFICATION Dote_Ociobet 31, 1568 Kr Yretk Menitza3, producer ; Columbie Brocdcasting Sys#em CBS ) News , 524 West 576h St ; New Ycrk, few York, stated tha t 0n the night 0f June 4-5, 1968 , he we8 regisiered 3 & the Arbassador Hotel, Lca Angoles , California During Seracor Kerned- ' 8 #peech wd tIie subsequer: cventa unt i 3 Gr 4 AM , Manitzas was ir a CBS rerote unii xcich WizS 4 truck perkeu in f:ont of ihe hoiel ; COH: equently be did Zot wikness tne shocting. He ha8 Qever S3Ci Sirian cirilar At cpprcximately 3 or 4 Am Mauitzas +0 the hospital Gher? enater Keiuncdy hai teen {aken "he Cijy rembers of Manitzez" staff that ne cei: rece] 1 herin; beer "ear *e ecene of the shoobing were cameraman Jixii KiSOI en0 nis c1ew 44 10/31/68 New Yoi} N _ I_ (te lep nicellY) NY 44-1640 On_` a SA Francis %. Cashin/fc October 31, 1968 b; Date dictated This Jecumenl conlains neilhet fecomnmendolions nor conc: 'sions of Ihe Ff; Mi Is Ihe properly of tho FBI ond Is looncr 0 Your cguncy; ilond ils conlenis ore no: to bc dlslributled oulside Your ogercy. wen + ================================================== Page 2 ================================================== FD-302 {Rev..4-15-644 FEDERAL BUREAU O} INVES'cATION Dcta_ 10/1/68 Mr JAME3 J_ MAROONEX ; Dii Men-ager Natiouai Broadcasting Company , Incorporated; {NBC} 30 Rockefelier P1.aza, New York, Nek York 2 teted tnai he wa S with the Senat,r ROBERT KENNEDY Cemps ign i7 each state tinare & primery was Ipeid and on the night of June. 4-5, 1968 9 h1e was in the Ambdssadcr Hotel, Los Ange Les , Cclifcrnie, when Senetor KENN EEDY mad3 his speech rrior t0 the eneech, MAiGCNEY Wa z in the Goid whicn 13 riear the ijna8*y Rcc;e wfpre che speccii was 1aver mad: checking the work ic ne done bv iBC Tuir'g Senator IZNNEZY" e speech ; MAROORZY Was genera]Ty bebind 91;4 io the right of Sema tor KENNEDV 9 ecing 2S joh Dzor ~J Serle icr KEMEDY' 2 speer, MAFC NEY neerd tiat Senator. KENNEDY , after nis speach was 3oizi c0 go to the rOu Ve:Ow the Eubesgs Foom ard tiiak2 3 s3cond speech to tiel ovcrlowing crowd icwever: MRUOiTzY heard that 62fore coing 2o make the sec0rd speech 9 Szratc; fENNEDY was soing to go 0 the Coloriai Roon whick was be us ed as a pres: roonl, to tal% to the work press. Dur Setatcr KENNEDY ' s epeecil, MAROONEY saw FRED DJTTON .and BITE BA RRY ierv+ the Embassy RoOI . MARCCNEY went 6itif then. went 10 ihe Goionial Roci and then' back to the Fuef 87 Room. MAROAAT is of 1ie iipres8 ion that BAFRY end DTMTO: we: 8 just looking +0 3ee whert the Colonial Room was {ocated_ On tile wa li to and fror ila Embassy =OOI, BA RY DUPTON end MA ROONEY went through th? place where Senator VENNEDX va8 later shot MA ROQNFV 7864lls that ther? Jer} approx izle tef people in that are8, some 7820 hetei empl oyees end others ; probably people interested in tha carapa !gn or just 3ightseere; RAROONZX noteeed nothirg undue Ha aia not S e8 'SIRFIAZ SIRTAN: tq his kncwledge - 45 s/25/68 New York; Nz Ny 44-1640 On_ File #_ SA' FRANC IS T,. GASHIN/cag 9/25/68 Cale dizicted This docur ent conlains ccihor recommendolions nor 'conclusians of Ihc FBi: # isIhe proporly ol Ihe FC ond is iooned lo Your ogency; il ond its ronlents are nol lo bz distribuled ouiside Your ugency. RoO1r , ing {ng ing They tely. by _ ================================================== Page 3 ================================================== NY: 44-1640 After Senatori KENNEDY' s Spsech, MAROONEY folloed' him out cf the Embessy Room tCward tha (olonial ROOII} . ? A1ong tne way, when MROONEY wa 8 2 t east fifteen fect behiind Senator KENNEDI 9 MAROONEY keard about fo1r shets at clos8 intervals The 2 were tremendons scrcams from ihe erea of Senator' KENH DY $ particularly to his igh:. Tevpl e were rucning to out_ Other peopie beh ind VAROCNEY were pushing to in dettout 418 not know inat anythins had happened MARQONEY did nct 89e the snctz being fired_ MAROONEY :Bw man on tne flcor kkc. he later Leared wa: PAUL SUKRADE end he thought that 3 HReW} w9: dead_ 0 Tbere wES a scuffle arounnd tilc area 0f 3enaicr KyNWEJ)Y but MAROOMEY couic not 8ee wbat wa.s bappeni:lg MAROONEY thcn_ SAw SIRHAN SLkHAN _ 'Chers we:e at leest twc wh: +9 es , holding SIRHAN. SIRHAI Wa$ iying or: 9 table kith lii3 E1mc streiched out These ien were lying on SITHAN holding him on tbe table. Onze of {:be m7-n may have been a clondo hair maitre a' kotcl. S IFHAN' s hard wae free however and he w? 3 holding sma L gun. Tiic j3 the only time NAROOFEY s&w SIzzriAN _ MAROONEY aid nd: hoar SIRHAN _87 anything_ At thi8 time MA4ROONEY with 'others (DICK TUCK of Sezetor KENNEDY ! 8 :taff ;9 one MAROONEZ can recsll} lockea a~m3_ forming 8 humnan cha in: and backed into the crowd S0 that tne:'6 woild be roofd aronnd Seretox KENNEDY who 89.3 yirg on the floor Others wr0 were in the imnediate area 8t the time Were ~RED IUITON WILG BARRY; DICK TUCK; HUGH MC DONALD 0f Senator: KENNFDY ' 8 saff JIM WILSON ,& Golubia Broadcasiing Syster caneraman; end FDDIE, tne 8ss istant banquet flaliager At the hotel People were taking care 0f Senator KENNEDY end MAROONEY dia not see wka t Was happening to STRHAN There were no ma jor Wuvemlents_ in the sree of SIRHAN 80 MAR OONEY cocluded tha t kc (SIRHAN} juzt heve been :bitg keld tkere 46 gat T9 7 ================================================== Page 4 ================================================== Iy 44-1640 At one poirt MAROONEY moved two benches 9cro;s #he ertzence to the kitchen from tke pantry t0 ksep people oit; - MAZCONFY did not leer Swilutor KENNELY say- any - ihing 43 28 va3 rot close enough 01t ke gawi Senatcr KENNEDY : < mouth IOv € 'in. speech 4t; Teest two icemen chen care in; MAROONEZ thinks tney were carrying shotguns Ccter an ambulerce Crer eam6 811d carried Semator KENNEDY ouat cf ihe room After Senator KENNELY ?cf+;, #eople ere talking and there were n0 po] ice 80 MAROONEY (:ic |uded that SIRHEN %uat have bzen rexoved prior to Senatior KENNEDY = MAROQIEY stated thai et 'the *ime of the shoot he recalis a ma 1 e weszing lignt co1or clothes rur out of the room, MAROONEY could not recall erything about the description cf this ini ividic l but; i0meinbers the inc ident only because iie individual 2aered to bs reacting out contert to others 47 1'01 ing; ================================================== Page 5 ================================================== FD-302 (Rev. 4-15-64) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 11/7/68 JOHN B_ MARQUAND , journalist for the "New York Review" 250 West 57th Street > Newv York, New York, vacationing at Great Pond , Edgartown, Massachusetts , said he was staying at the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles_ 9 California the night the late Senator ROBERT F KENNEDY was asgas8inated there June 5, 1968 , At approximately midnight _ 3 June 49 1968 MARQUAND was in the ser 'Ving kitchen of tne Ambassador Hotei along with other journalists and newspaper writers and kitchen emp loyees of the above hotel awai KENNEDY ' s exit from the hotel via that area Since MARQUAND 8 good friend , GEORGE PLIMPTON , editor and free lance writer, was acc ompanying KENNEDY 9 MARQUAND anticipated a brief interview of KENNEDY as the latter passed through that area Suddenly_ a8 the bodyguards and vanguard of KENNEDY 8 group With KENNEDY entered the serving kitchen, MARQUAND heard what sounded to him like several Chinese firecrackers going off Then he saw ROOSEVELT GRIER_ 9 ex-pro football player; RAFER JOHNSON ex-Olympic athletic star; GEORCE PLIMPTON; and others seize a frail small young man Tho looked like a teen-age Mexican and hoid his right arnl aloft There was a handgun in his right hand which they wrestled from him They then threw him on top of a serving I table and appeared to be "tearing him apart Because of the excitement and confusion, MARQUAND failed to note KENNEDY Lying on the floor for some seconds after the above scene took place= MARQUAND said he subsequently learned through the news media that the young man with the gun in his hand was SIRHAN B SIRHAN - On 11/6/68 at Edgartow Massachusetts File # Boston44-646 48 by SA WILLIAM H CARPENTER mei Date dictated 11/7/68_ This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI &d i8 loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. ting ================================================== Page 6 ================================================== 2 Bs44-646 MARQUAND had never seen SIRHAN before the above incident and did not see hin shoot KENNEDY He knew no one who Irnew SIRHAN or who had seen hin about the Ambassador Hotel on the night Of June 4, 1968, He could furnish no information a8 to any conspiracy to assassinate KENNEDY _ 49 '5 ================================================== Page 7 ================================================== F3-j92 (Rev. 4-15-84) FEDERAi BLREAU OF WINVES ZATION Date_Nogembe: 22,2968 Mr . Sieve Nelson; engiueer: WNEW~Wews , 565 Sth ive . New York, New York, ielephone nuber 986-(660 , stated tbat or the evening 0r June 435,.1968 ne was in the Ambasesdor Eotal, Los Angc_es, Celifori'ia In room 473_ Kocm 473 was 4 vrking roon @r MSEW-#ews _ Neison was in tne rxom Curing Senator Jennedy' $ speech and tile 2ir8t he neard of the shcoting WiS whe; WNEw reportsr Dan Biackburr called tne rcom and %cld thei of inc sncoting- Nelscz renalnec in tne rOuE; #rkir3) unt l 8 JCAu on Jona 5, 1962. Veleon d2d 20; see the 6n00iing snd ba;; never :cer Zizian Sirnan 50 Or 41/28/68 at_New Yori , N_Y_(#elephonic-ilely) NX 44-1640 b# SA Francis L< Cashin/fc Dale dictated_1} /13/68 Tni: document conlcins neilher rbzowimeidolizns Dut coiiciusions ol Ihe Fui. | is Ihe Property J; Ike FBl en is Iooned To ogency; It ond ils conlenis are nol to be distribulcd oulsic0 yctr ogalicy. Youi ================================================== Page 8 ================================================== FD-302 (Rov. 4-15-64) FederaL BURZAU OF INVESTICAMION Date_ 10/3/68 18s CARUI 'CUGHTTN, 1616 '18rh Streef, Na. Apartzont 407 9 euployed *y Fubllc Broedcagt Lab 1619 Mesgedlisetzs Kvente, Na advised 28 follows: Sbe was registered &2 the Azbaggador Hotel, 1oS Angeles, Califcrnlet on the cvening & June &0 19680 being tkere a8 3 reporter for Fublic Eroadcast Jabc which {8 ccncerned mostly with I.Vo @rucszional Fublications, Ar the *ira Senator KENNEDY 25 shot, 9he w8s in the lobby 0f tne borel on her way cle for Expper 2 She di8 nct gee &he obooting Ard ccld cnly ccent On the ctmmotion caused the shooting" Sne does noi knov SIRIAN SINAAN, never 9ew hin, erd kows ncching concerning any pogbible corspiracy in which ha my be involved, 51 On 9/21458_ot_ Eqob File #_ VEA 173-135 S4 #URVEI 40 VILZINSCN tab 9/27/63 by Date dictated _ This documeni conloins nelther rocommendations nor conciusions oi Ihe FBI: # Is the property of tho FBI ond Is looned lo Your agency; 4 . E Jl] 4 < Wa8 Be $ by ================================================== Page 9 ================================================== FD-302 (Rev. 4-15-64 ) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 1/. Date JOHN PILGER, Writer for the London England "London Daily Mirror who works out of the New York Office of this lication, 220 Eas t 42nd Street, New York, New York, was interviewed at his hotel, The Beverly Carlton, 9400 Wes t Olympic Boulevard 9 Beverly Hills , California, telephone 275- 5221- Mr PILGER said at the tine of the shooting of Senator ROBERT p KENNEDY , Mr PILGER wae in the Embasey Roon of the Ambasgador Hotel, standing near the podium_ He never did into the kitchen area Where the ehooting toolr place_ cons equently he did not witnees the shooting or the immediate aftermath He had no recollection 0f seeing SIRHAN SIRHAN at any time Mr PILGER said he had been with HA RRY BENS ON , Photographer , who did work for the Black Star Fublishing Company, New York New York. He thought the FBI had already interviewed Mr BENSON. Mr PILGER py November 7, 1968, advised that GEORGE GALE of the "London phoafiyA Mirror" had als0 been at the Ambassador Hotel at the time of the shooting Of Senator KENNEDY GALE 18 based in London, but hag been recently in the United States He i8 thought to have just recently returned to M London The New York Office of the "London Daily Mirror could advise if GALE i8 still in the United States and his whereabouts Mr PILGER did not know 1f Mr GALE had been interviewed the FBI or not . Mr PILGER added he had , in substance, furnished the above informacion to the Los Angeles Police Deparcment On 11/6/68 at Beverly Hills California File # Log Angeles 56-156 11/7/68 52 J SA LESLIE F WARREN/mlb 11/8/68 by Date dictated Thig document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are 'not to be distributed outside your agency. pub get Cicy, by ================================================== Page 10 ================================================== FD- 302 (Kov. +15-64) Fen)ErAi BUREAU OF Im EST;GATICN Dctecctobcr[312 Nr. Hartv Piissner , writer and associate prcducer, coluibia Broaccasting Systen (UBS) , 524 Wezi 57th Street New ork, M_ siated that on the night 2f Jurie h5 9 h? was registered 4t sne AmbessEewr Xotel, Ios Angeles , califofniz During Senator Keirledj ! $ speech, Plissner was in ~0 Salircom abouit twenty fee: away from Serstor Kcnnedy 1 the end of tk0 specch 9 Plissner w8s iL? a hery to zet out of ehe ballrcom aa sicd :0 go in tbe direc;;o Senator Kernedy Tiere was such a erewd 10 tnat 2re3 that Tlissncr hea led 43 auotnef direction and #2S cvidcitly behind & piller in the tallrco at the tine 02 she shccting_ Plissner earo [1O shots nut hcara WOm:n scTeAnin_ arid M SOuleorie sav sojne thing such 1S Is ne alive?" Fiissner then reasonec tnat #here ;uct bere {,4er & shocti-3- PS.ssile; was unahle to in the rCCm wncre d shuoting occufrei and d1d nci 800 the shoo";iig, Senator Aeruledy or Sirhan Sirhanl 53 10/31/68 New. York, N . Y_ {telephonically} NY 44-1640 Oii Fiie #_ SA Francis L- cashili/fe Oc ober- 31, 1968 by Date dictated Ini> documenf conlcins neither recommendotion: G: conelusian: c -he F84. II is Ihe Property ol Ihe FBI cad is loaned Io ;our ugencyf iland il: (onfen%: are nol to be disi ioltd oulside Your agencv. 1388 Y., 1368 of get ================================================== Page 11 ================================================== FD-302 (Rev. 4-15-64) FEDERAL BUREAU OF. INVESTIGATION Date 10/14/68 1 II JOHN REGULY , correspondent "Toronto star 9 National Pregs Building, furnished the following information: iI REGULY advised that JOHN BREHL of the "Toronto Star is permanently assigned to the hone office in Toronto BREHL was not in Los Angeles at the time of' KENNEDY' s a8 sassination, but flew to Los Angeles the next to help REGULY cover the story. At the time of the assa8s ination, REGULY was sitting in the Temporary Press Room talking to HILLIARY LAMB They were awaiting for an appearance of KENNEDY Then they heard popping s ounds and went to the kitchen area REGULY saw KENNEDY on the ground and also saw SIRHAN being held by ROSIEY GRTER, RAFER JOHNSON 9 and an unknown white man GRIER had hold of SIRHAN ' s hand and gun and Was pointing the gun towards the Tall GRIER then took the gun from S IRHAN and passed it to JOHNSON REGULY then saw GEORGE PLIMPTON grab SIRHAN . REGULY had never seen SIRHAN before He heard SIRHAN say while he Was being held by GRIER and JOHNSON , "I il can explain, I can explain At this time, GRIER was twisting SIRHAN S Out in the hall a girl who was a KENNEDY aide to FRANK MANKTEWICZ vas saying that she had thrown hin meaning SIRHAN) out twice and that she did not see how he back in. REGULY did not know this girl' 8 name, but said she was tall, large boned, and brunette On 10/11/68 at Washington; D. C File # WFO173-135 54 by SA JOHN L. PATTERSOW/bfm Date dictated 10/11/68 Thi8 document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of' the FBI: It i8 the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. day leg got ================================================== Page 12 ================================================== FD-302 (Rov. &-15-64) FEDERaL BUREAU OF INVESTISATION Dato_ 10/10/68 WALTER Jc SHERLDAN 9 4901 Edgemoor Lane, Bechesda, Maryland , who is employed 8s a speclal corres- ent by the National Broadcasting Company , advised that he went to Los Angeles 9 Callfornia, imediately followving the Indiana Primary Election in 1968 and that he Tas in close contect wlth the Senator ROBERT KENNEDY Campaign Headquarters in Los Angeles fron that time until Senator KENNEDY was shox on June 5, 1968_ 0 M 0 SHERTDAN related after observing a photograph of SIRHAN Bc SIRHAN that to his kcnowledge he had never seen this individual 0 Nr 0 SHERIDAN stated that on June 4, 1968 he worked at the Wilshire Boulevard Headquarters of Senator KENNEDY and at about the time the polling Pleces closed he went to the Ambassador Horel 0 He Tas at the Ambassador Hotel Tith CAESAR CHAVEZ .who is from Deleno, California, and had brought 8 group 0f about 200 Mexican-American farm laborers to Los Angeles to help with the election, He noted that CHAVEZ is the head of the farm' workers in Delano , Californiao Mr SHERIDAN related that during the evening of June 49 1968, he had made errangements for the above workers to be present when Senator KENNZDY aftec results of the election becane knowm and he had been to Senator KENNEDY ' s suite at the Anbassadoz Hotel to arrange for CHAVEZ to speak personally with KENNEDY After such arrangements Tere made, he went to find CHAVEZ in a lower level of the Ambassador Hotel, but could not locate himo SHERIDAN said that RICHARD COLEMAN 9 a Ios Angeles attorney , had invited him, CAROL ASH, THZRESA MALSTON and KATIE MURPHY to dinner &nd that this group was 55 On_ 10/9/68 at_ Neshington Do C, File # WFO 173-135 SA ROBERT WT , DAWSCN: iab 10/10/68 by Date dictated This decuncn: conlcins Geiner rccommendcicss Gof conclsico; o} #he F8}. #f is Ie property of Iha F8} ond Is loonad Io Your ogency; Wond AM Fooicnt 070 aoiike 4i8}h,4 ~"r:4 Mr 6 pond= spoke Yr . ================================================== Page 13 ================================================== WFO 173-135 eating dinner at the Chancellor Hotel when they Jearned of Senator KENNEDY being shot 0 SHERIDAN stated that t1o nights before the election a reception Tras held fox Senator KENNEDY and his wife at the Cocoanj_ Grove at ti1e Ambassadoc Hotel. 0 On this occasion che hotel wes .very croded and he accompanied Senator KENNEDY fron his rOOm to the reception and #ere taken through the serving kitchen to avoid the crords SHERIDAN was of the opinion that SIRHAN may have observed this and been able to have tioned hinself to be near KENNEDY after KENNEDY spoke following the electiono SHERIDAN stated that during the of June k , 1968 , the KIBLAH (phonetic) KHAN , an Irani; Tas at the Wilshire Boulevard Headquarters of Senatoc KENNEDY _ SHERIDAN said KHAN had introruced hinself at that tine and told SHERIDAN he had met SHERIDAN on a previous occasion, SHERIDAN related rhis was not true but that he knew KHIAN from an occasion in 1963 Or 1964 when an attorney acquaintance of his represenced KHAN vhen ehe KHAN had alleged that the Shah of Iran had mi sappropriated millions of dollars of Ue S, aid.money 0 SHERIDAN seid that he mentioned seeing KHAN in Los Angeles on June 4, 1968 , as he had heazd thaz there was some connection between KHAN and SIRHAN _ 56 they posi day 812 9 only ================================================== Page 14 ================================================== FD 302 iR:;. *15-64) FED ERAL BUREAU C? NMESTICATION Date_ Octobes 24,1968_ Mr. Dieter Strana stated ihat he is a reporter the newspaper Aftorbladet' in Stuekholm, Sweden and tkat he was staying at tke Belmont PLaza Hotel, Lexington Avenue and 49th Street, New York, Nez York_ His newsnaper has an office at 303 West 42ric St 0 ) New York, T= 1 In June 1968 ne wa? in Californig covering- the primaz; &nd was registered at the Emhaezedcr Hctel in Los Angezes_ Drirg Senator Keredy'$ speecn on the evening of Jrine Strard wias in the nress room Wilieti '?s near the rocm in which Senator Kennedy W28 Iaiing his Epeeci. At the conclusion of Senator Kennedy' $ speech, 3trand Jeft tka press rocn and W20 on the waj to nis Toom wn?n Senatox 'Kenred; was 3iloi; . He Cza oi 1e2 tne; shoocing 3 4 Seiato? Kerredy. To his korlcege he kae never seen Sirnar S_~kan 57 On_ 10/24//38 at New York, jv Y. itelephonicahl#) NY 44-1640 SA Francis L. Cashin/fc Dcte dicto;ed_ 10/24/68 3 duaument conioins nelhe: recomm endalions or conclusions of the Fe;. i Is Ihe preperiy of the FBI arid Is loaned to Your agency; urd conlvnls are nof to E 3 : istribuled oulside Yo~f agency. fer 1968 4,. its ================================================== Page 15 ================================================== FD-?02 iRsy. &-15-54} Fedeizal BUREAU CF INvEstiba@cN Date_10/17/68 Ba E ULIMAN 3 reporter 2 French News Agency = r 914 National Press Building, furnished the folloving informetion: ULLMAN travelled with the KENNEDY Canpaign party in Celifornia end part of che tine in Oregono Tne of the Celifornia Primery Election ULLMAN was at the Ambassador Hotel 0 He listened to KENNEDY 5 victory speech 112 the Embassy Room 2nd then the Senator left the rooni_ 0 ULLMAN stayed in he roon and used the telephone 0 Nhile I1e Tas 0n the telepkone he Jcarned mhat happened to KENNEDY 0 He attempted to inio the kitchen 2rea but was unable to do S0 because cf &e crord_ 0 He did not see STRHAN or - KENNEDY after rhe shootingo ULLNAN does nor remember seeing 3 person resenbling the photo of STRIAN at ery time during the canpaigno 58 10/15/58 Washington, DaC , WFO 173-135 On_ 8 File# SA JOHN Lo PATTERSON: blr 10/15/68 Date dlictated_ This documeat contoing neiiher recommendclions nor conclusions of Ino FBI: ! Is Iho propariy .of Iho FZI ond Is looned (o Your 'Jgency: Wtand Wls conlenls ore nol io ba dislribuled oulido Your agoncy. night ger bY ================================================== Page 16 ================================================== FC 202 iRzy. 415-64) FECERAL DUREAU OF INVESTiZATICN Date_October_13, Mr Aian Nalden, New8 Director, WNEW Radio Station, 565 Sth Averwes New Jork, New York, stated that on %na night of' june 4 7' 5, 1963 he was registered at tne Abaszador Hotel, Dos Angeles, Californiz. Curing Senetor Robert Kennedy' s speechs Naldcn was in a room Or 8h2 third flcor cf the hotel where ne ha.d 'set up a broadcast studio, conecguently he was not in the vicinity. of Senatoi Kennely wilen be Wab 3hoi and did nc?: wiiness ske shooting 5e ra? rever se?t) Sikan Sirhan 'ine {irat time that Walzen heaz} of tile shooting va? whiie #ciden wez ir the third joor broadcast room Ie hcaro one of xie ennc ncers, Taii Elacknez: whc 7as in tiic vicinity 6: Zenator Rerned;is zrnc'-e tniat Senatir Knedy . nyd bezr chot ^ Short; 3 theveater Kalden Wart. *u tk? ~oon rhere 3cnaiur Kenny had bs er chot . There Wcs ~uch 4 crowd tkzze thal walzer dia not tc in and he retnrned to tie j1;4 {lcor None of tke men in Walaen's group Were in the &4&6 of tke 'shooting except Dar Bleckhan 3an Blackbuzr 2e bc contacie:{ ai ine Washingion Bureay of Metromedia Newc , 5151 Wieconsin Ave Nozthwest , Washington, D telephene nlumber 202-244-6220 59 Oct 17, 1968 Nzw York, New Ycrk NY . 44-164) On_ File #_ SA Francis L. Cashin/fc Oct 17, by_ Dafe dictoted Thi: jo-Jnenl conloins neither recommendoliong nor conelusions ol Ihe FBI Jt is Ihe property 0l 'he FBI ond is looned Io Your 0g+ocy; Mond Wts conlents ore nof lo be dislribuld oulside agerY: 1938 try get 8 $ c.' 1968 Your ================================================== Page 17 ================================================== FD-302 (Rev. 2-15.64) FEDERAL BurEA@ OF INVESTGATON 10/10/68 Doto_ MARY ANN MIECERS 9 2939 Van Ness Street, Washingcon, D T723 incerviewed at her plece of employment, "Tashington Post" newspapero She furnished the folloving information: She said she was assigned by the Post Eo cover the campaigns of presidential candidates 0 She covered part: 0f the Oregon campaign and also part of the California campalgn of Senator ROBERT KENNEDY The night of the shooting she said she was in rhe suite of KENNEDY ' $ on the fifth floor of the Ambassador Hotele When the Party left the suitc to go to the Enbassy room, she followed on a different elevator 0 She said sha stood near the ToV . ceneras at the back of the room during KENNEDY ' s speech. Inmediately following the she left by cab to go to NC CARTHY 5 headquartersa It Tas not until she arrived in NC CARTHY 5 suite chat she heard of the shocting at which rime she went back to *he Ambassador Hojel and to KENNEDY ' s suite? She stated that while she Vas in the suite a young 9 approximately fifteen years of agep was brought in by two Los Angeles policenen and a young womane The teen-age had been sitting on the back steps 0f the Ambassador and folloving che shooting scated 2 in a black dress with white polke dots rushed by yelling, killed we killed hima V WIEGERS stared this teen-age was hysterical at the time she saw her MARY ANN said she had not seen SIRHAN or the girl in the polka-dot dress at any time. 590_ On__ 10L9L68 a} Hashington 41 DsCa File# FQ_1Z3-L35 SAs ROBERT F PETTY- and JAMES CARR NOORE, JRa RFP : tab 10/10/68 by Date dictatedl_ Thls documen: contoic: nellher recommendetions nor concljsions cl Ire FBL m Is #e Property o} ile FBI ond [s looned to Your cgeacy: #land its conlonls ore nofto be distribuled oulsido Your ogency_ Co ? speech giz] girl girl "We hin, girl ================================================== Page 18 ================================================== LA 56-156 JOS/rem Records of the Los Angeles California Police Department indicate that Mr (First Name Unknown) ADKINS 17 Avon Place , Yonkers New York, was present in or adjacent to the Embassy Ballroom, Ambassador Hotel, on June 4-5 9 1968, which room was being utilized by the campaign forces of the late Senator ROBERT F KENNEDY to hear the results of the California primary election and to celebrate the Senator 1 S victory in California 60 ================================================== Page 19 ================================================== FD-302 (Rov: 4-15-64) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATON 10/7/68 Date STEVEN ATKINS , 15 Claremont Road 9 sdale 5 New advised tnat he was exBlayed_ aS an advance man on the {9a3a188 staff of Senator F KENNEDY in and 9 He wa s in Angeles, California, late in but had left several days prior to the assassination on June , 5, 1968. Mr 0 ATKINS advised that his wife. had not accompanied hin on the trip to Los Angeles and she wa.s not pre sent at the Ambas Sador Hotelo He a ssumed 'Zha { the identity of Mr 0 and MrS 0 ATKINS waSi in error , or referred to another couple since she should not have been listed a5 having been at the 'Ambassado Hotel He added that while he Ie$ at the hotel, he had used the address of his father ; JO SEPH" ATKINS , Medical Doctor 9 i7 Avon Place 9 Yonkers, New York As a result; Mr . ATKINS could furnish no information in this matter. 61 On_ 10/2/68 at sdale New_York File #_ NY 44-1640 by_ SA ROBERT G . 0 'NEIL/Lp Dale diclated_ 10/2/68 This 'document conlain; neilber recommendolions nor conclusions of Ihc FBI; M is Ibe Properiy of ihe FBI and is loaned lo Your agency; ilond ils conlenls ore nol to be distributed oulside Yovr. agency. Scal York, May June Los May , Scaf ================================================== Page 20 ================================================== FD-302 (Rev. 4215-64) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 11/8/68 Miss LINDA Room 3130, San Rafael Hall University of California Santa Barbara telephonicaliy contacted the writer at the Santa Barbara Resident Agency of the FBI ana advised that she had been in the Ambassador Hotel ballroom attending the victory celebration for Senator ROBERT F KENNEDY on June 4 9 and June 5, when Senator KENNEDY was shot She stated that she was not in 8 position to see the incident or the assailant , and she could offer no first-hand information concerning the affair She stated that she had been interviewed at length by the Los Angeles Police Department shortly after the crime , had furnished them a11 the information she had 2 and that she had not subsequenbly recalled any information which might be inent to this matter. She stated that she i8 presently a student at the University of California $ Santa Barbara and her home address is 5910 Kentland Avenue , Woodland Hills , California ; 82 On 11/1/68 at Santa Barbara , California File # Los_Angeles_56_156 by SA GORDON B 0 PLAYMAN/jar 11/6/68 Date dictated Thi8 document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It i8 the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and it8 contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. BOND , 1968 pert ================================================== Page 21 ================================================== FD-302 (Rev. 4-15-64) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 1 Date 10/9/63 On October 8, 1968 5 RICHARD COLEMAN 20656 Pacific Coast Melibu, California (phone 356..8346) (businese telephone 7611) 9 was interviewed regarding any possible information he might have pertaining to the shootihg of Senator ROBERT KEMEDY Mr COLEMAN advised he wes dining at the Chancellor Hotel in Los Angeles 5 California, at the tine Of the shooting He stated that he learned of the shooting while observing a television which wa: in t he dining arca COLEMAN stated that he returned to the Ambas gador Hotel in an effort to learn of the condition of KENNEDY however 2 due to the iass confusion 8t the hotel he wa: unab ie to learn anything regarding the Senator 4 9 condition and he learned that the Senator had been refloved from the hotel COLEMAN stated that he never sew the man who was identified a8 STRHAN B SIRHAN and that SIRHAN had al80 been removed from the hotel by the time he errived COLEMAN stated chat at approzinetely 3:00 a m . the norning of the shooting he went to his hozze COLEMAN stated that he had Worked for the Senator 28 an attorney in the U.S Departnent oi Justice and he was excremely upset upon learning of the ehooting COLEMAN advised that he had n20 other infornation pertaining to shooting. On 12/B/63 at Log Angelesy_Galiforaie File # Los_Angeles 56_.156 63 by _S4_EREDRICK # BECICERZav Date dictated 12/8/68 This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusion8 of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. Huehi626': ================================================== Page 22 ================================================== FD-302 (Rev. 4-15-64) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 10/11/68 Date WILLIAM R HODGES 9 Army Serial No _ assigned to Company C, lst Battalion, U_ 8 _ Army Medical Training Center 2 Fort Sdm Houston advised that on June 4-5, 1968 9 he resided at 513 Ocean Bouievard 9 Manhattan Beach, California His present home address is 235 25th Street, Hermosa Beach, California He advised he graduated from the University of Southern California at Los Angeles in June 1967 , and in June 1968 , waS working for the Manhattan Beach City School District 48 a substitute teacher , fourth through eighth grades _ He advised he arrived at the Embassy Room about 7:45 p . m. , June 4, 1968_ With him in his car was his girl friend 5 CAROL FENBURY , 2216 strand , Manhattan Beach, California, and his brother ROBERT R_ HODGES , 531 2lst Street , Manhattan Beach, California In a second car was his brother , DAVID HODGES_ 9 235 25th Street , Hermosa Beach , California, and the latter S girl friend , JANET LOWRIE, who is employed at the Westrey Nursery School Also in that car were DEKKER RAWLINGS and his wife, SHARON RAWLINGS , who live in Manhattan Beach The two cars arrived with their occupants within five minutes of each other LINDA LEE HODGES , wife of ROBERT R HODGES_ 5 had gone t3 the Embassy Room earlier and stayed later than the others of the party. From approrimately 7:45 p.m. until about 11:30 p.m., all of the party were together, standing between the tele- vision cameras and the entrance to the corridor from which Senator KENNEDY was expected to enter the Embassy Roon . HODGES remenbered that at about 10 30 or 10.45 p: he saw a man with bushy dark hair, slight build , about 5'5" tall, dressed in an old jacket_ 9 dark dirty-looking pants walking from the direction of the corridor doors tovard the 10/10/68 Fort San Houston, Texas SA 56-102 On at 64 File # SA JOSEPH E JONES /fes 10/10/68 by Date dictated Thig document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of' the FBI. It i8 the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. m. , ================================================== Page 23 ================================================== SA 56-102 2 podium _ He said he logt sight of this individual in the crowd and that he really saw only the back of' his head He said that this man was not moving in a definite direction, but appeared rather to be wandering_ He said this individual attracted his attention because he was the only unkempt person in the room; everyone else there was dressed in bus iness clothes and looked clean and well kept : He said that he remembered remarking to his I1 girl friend CAROL FENBURY How do you suppoge he He said he was not sure, but that CAROL majy ha ve seen tis individual also HODGES said that none of the members of his party had a camera He did not remember seeing &ny girl in a polka dot dress HODGES viewed a photograph of SIRHAN B_ SIRHAN , and stated he could not identify the unkempt person he had seen as being identical with the photograph of STRHAN He said that since the hour was getting late and it appeared would not be able to see Senator KENNEDY , CAROL FENBURY , and ROBERT HODGES left about 11.30 p.m_ in their car and the others with the exc eption of LINDA LEE HODGES left in their car at the same time He said that his car was on the freeway returning to Manhattan Beach, California 9 when heard the announcement of the shooting on the radio_ HODGES said that CAROL FENBURY is employed byy the Torrance City School District 0 His sister-in-law 9 LINDA LEE HODGES 9 is a substitute teacher employed by the Lennox School District . His brother 9 ROBERT R HODGES , is a law student attending a private law school near Long Beach 9 the name of which he could not remember His younger brotherg DAVID HODGES is a student at El Camino Junior College The following description was obtained through observation and interview: Name WILLIAM R HODGES Race White 65 in?" got they he , they ================================================== Page 24 ================================================== SA 56-102 3 Sex Male Date of Birth PII Los Angeles 9 California Height 5'11 Weight 165 pounds (193 in June 1968) Hair Brown Eyes Hazel Marital Status Single Home Address 235 25th Street Hermosa Beach , California Father ROBERT T HODGES 1322 Galleon Venice 9 California Mother HELEN R_ HODGES 235 25th street Hermosa Beach_ 9 California Brothers ROBERT R HODGES 531 Zlst Street Manhattan Beach, California DAVID HODGES 235 25th street Hermosa Beach, California 66 ================================================== Page 25 ================================================== FD-302 {Rov. 4-15-64) FedeRAL BUREAU OF INVESYICATION Date_ 10/7/68 JANE KEARNS , residing at 1337 22nd. Street, North West, Wash- ington, D" and employed as a Secretary to the Director, American Film Institute, 1815 H Street, North Washington, D,C,; advised as follows: She said she was formerly employed as an Assistant to DONALD WILSON who was in charge %f_publicity on a nation wide basis in the campaign of Senator ROBLRT F KENNEDY She said that she was in the Embassy Ballroom of the Ambass- ador Hotel, Los Angeles, California, listening to the talk given by Senator KENNEDY just before he w7a $ shot_ She said that she and a number of other campaign Torkers had spontaneously forned an aisle or passageway through which Pre- sumed the Senator would valk through on nis way out of the Embassy Ballroon. This aisle or passageway ran to the right from the ium i12 the direction 0f an exit door, which was the shortest route from the room . She said, however, that Senator KEINNEDY did not walk toward the group formed aisle, but instead walked in the opposite direction tovard the kitchen area. She said that she then heard a commotion, something like a metal table striking a waLl. She said that she heard no shots or what sounded like gun shots, KEARNS stated that she had never seen SIRHAN SIRHAN at any time. 67 10/4/68 Hashington, D. C. 173-135 On 0 Flle; #_ SA VAZ;TER B_ SAVAGE: wbs 10/7/68 by Date dictated _ This document contains nellher recommendalions nor-conclusions 'ot the FBi: I 'Is: 'Ihe property of Ihe FBI ond Is looned to Your agency; ifard ils contanls ore nof to be dlstrlbuted oulside Your agency. C., Hest, they Pod - ================================================== Page 26 ================================================== FO-302 (Rev. 4-15-64)_ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 10/24/68 JOHN V_ KENNY , 2 Political Science Major , and prezently residing &t 249 Renkin Avenue , Providence_ 9 Rhode Island, while he 18 attending Providence College 3 In Providence, Rhode Island 1 advised thet on June 4, 1968, he was present in the Embessy Room of the Anbagsador Hotel In Los Angeles 9 California, where he heard and observed Senator ROBERT F KEMEDY deliver an address to hls campaign forces He stated thet at that time he was not employed by the 'Fadlo Station, WEAN , Providence , Rhode Islend; but wag subsequently employed when he contacted an Individual by the name of HARRY MC ' KENNA, News Director, for the Radio Station WEAN _ Mr . KENY stated that he wag on the stage when Senator ROPERT F KENNEDY addressed hig campaLgn forces, end took 8everal pictures of the_ KEMEDY entourage 38 well 88 a number of individuals in the audlence He stated thet he took several pictures of Senator ROEERT F . KENNEDY , 23 he wa8 eeaking at the poaium . He stated thet after Senator KENNEDY spoke be welked to his right, on the stage and then turned around end procerded to the reer of the stege &nd umped off the end proceeded into an erea, whIch he aOw; knows aseEhe 48 kitchen corridor area He stated that ne with hls camera continued to follow #fter Senator KEMEDY and continued t0 teke pictures of him proceeding through the kitchen corridor door, which 18 located to the rear of the Embassy Room . 58 On_ 10/16/68 of_ Providence Rhode Island FIle #_ Boston 44-646 SA MARTIN P . CONLEY / dmb 10/18/68 by Date dictated This documeni" contoins neither recommendations nor conclusions of Ihe FBI: It is Ihe property of the FBI and is loaned Io Your agency; Mand conlenls are not to bo distrIbuted oulside Your ogency- its ================================================== Page 27 ================================================== 2_ BS 44-646 He stated that he held his camera over hs head and took a number of shots_ He stated that when he entered tha sma11 corridor of the roon he heard a loud exploston and then observed the individual, now known to him as SIRHAN B. SIRHAN, being held by a very large Negro male , who he now knows as ROEEVELT GRIER He stated that a union official who wa 8 Shot In the corridor ana who was previously standing on the stage nert to Sznator KENNEDY as he addressed the crowa fell down In front of him. KENNY stated that to the best of his knowyledge and recollection he did not see SIRHAN B. SIRHAN rrior to the time that he saw him being subdued by ROSEVELT GRIER . KEINY polnted out that a8 he trailed behind Senator KENNDY , who was departing through the kitchen corridor, he extended his hands over his head and With hls camera &tterpted to take photographs in the kitchen corridor He stated that he nad submitted the photos for development, but they were returned with a nctation that were not enough for printing. Mr _ KENNY stated that upon his return to Providence 3 Rhode Island he was intervlewed by HARRY MC KENNA 3 News Director of Radfo Station WEAN, Providence , Rhode Island 9 and stated that he kept a tape of the Interview With MC KEINA 38 good they ================================================== Page 28 ================================================== BS 44-646 Mr KENNY advised that he wa 8 born on September 2, 1947 at New York, New York, and resides at Apartment 1B, Metropoliten Avenue 9 Bronx, New York, when not in attendance at Providence College 70 1675 ================================================== Page 29 ================================================== FD-3O2 (Rov. 4-15-64) FEDERAZ BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date_ 10/24[63 JOH V KENNY made avallable s1x negatives of: photogrephs which he attemted to take on June; 4, 1968 In the Embassy Room of the Ambasaador Hotel, Los Angeles; Cellfornia_ These_photographs were taken In and about the time Senator ROBERT F_ KENEEDY wag shot by SIRHAN SIRHAN _ 71 On_ 10/17/68 at Provldence Rhode Ialand File #_ Bostop_44-646 S4 MARTIN P. CONLEY /amb 10/18/68 Date dictated This documeni conloins neilher rocommendalions nor conclusions of Ihe FBL * Is the properiy of Ihe FBI and Is looned lo Your Ogency: ilond ils conlents are nof to be dislribuled ouIside Your agency. AY ================================================== Page 30 ================================================== FD-302 (Rev. 4-15-64) 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 10/9/68 Date Mrs . ESTELYN LA HIVE, al80 known a8 Mrs JOSEPH A LA HIVE, 4055 Tujunga Avenue Apartment 305 , Studio California, telephone 985 advised the following: On the evening of June 4, 1968, and the early morning of June 5 , 1968, Mrs LA HIVE had been at the Ambassador Hotel during the Senator ROBERT F KENNEDY campaign party . Mrs LA HIVE was not married to Mr LA HIVE at the time and her maiden name 6a8 ESTELYN DUFFY _ When Senator KENNEDY finished his speech in the Embassy Room at the Ambassador Hotel, at around 12:15 a .m on June 5, 1968, Mr and Mrs LA HIVE were standing in a corridor 9 a sort of anteroom , behind the stage where Senator KENNEDY wa8 speaking When the speech was finished , the Senator and his party left she stage and passed through the swing door8 into the kitchen area Mr and Mrs LA HIVE then started to follow the KENNEDY party toward the kitchen area Just before they reached the swinging door area, she heard some popping noises which at first she did not realize were gunshots There were two or three shots, then a slight pause, then several more shots Mr LA HIVE at thi8 point voiced the opinion that it was gunfire they had heard and immediately ran into the kitchen area to investigate Mrs LA HIVE stayed in the ante - room and did not observe any of the immediate aftermath in the kitchen She saw one Woman come running out of the kitchen who had blood on her forehead and soon became aware after al1 the screams and confusion that there had been a shooting and that the Senator had been shot, a8 well a8 several other persons Mrs LA HIVE stated that she and her husband had entered the Embassy Room, shortly before the Senator KENNEDY speech, through the kitchen area and that she had noted there were several people in the kitchen area at the time of her entry whom she felt were employees of the hotel She had no recollection of seeing the suspect, SIRHAN SIRHAN , in the kitchen at that time or of ever having seen him prior to the time he was apprehended and removed from the area by the police On at File # 1072768 Studio City, California Los Angeles 56-156 72 by S4-EESBIE F WARREi-amt Date dictated 10/7/68 This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI: It is the property of the FBL and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outgide your agency. City, 044681, ing ================================================== Page 31 ================================================== 2 ZA 56-156 Mrs LA HIVE , following examination of photographs of SIRHAN SIRHAN and members of his fanily, stated she had no recollection of seeing any of the persons in the photo- graphs at any time, with the exception of SIRHAN SIRHAN when he was removed from the hotel following his arrest_ 73 " ================================================== Page 32 ================================================== FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 10/3/68 Mr JOSEPH A LA HIVE, 4055 Tujunga Avenue , Studio 5 California, Apartment 305, telephone 985-4681, advised the following: Mr LA HIVE 9 mho does sales promotion work for the Jim Beam Liquor Dietributing Company of" Illinois 9 and whose local business addrese ie in care of' Food Products, 1910 East Imperial Highway , El Segundo, California, telephone 772-4308, said that he was also Preeident of the Democratic Club in Van Nuye , California. With reepect to the investigation#of" SIRHAN SIRHAN 9 charged with shooting Senator ROBERT p KENNEDY 9 Mr LA HIVE eaid that there wae a warehouse employee at the Western Dietri- buting Company 5 2440 Eaet 38th Street 9 Los les , telephone 583-8761, mho had related to him about a month previoue that SIRHAN SIRIIAN had a close friend a waiter This friend reportedly was employed by the Fiore Diftalia Reetaurant , 14928 Ventura Boulevard, Shernan Oaks 9 California, telephone 783-9074 The warehouse employee ! 8 name Mr LA HIVE could not recall epecifically but he had the phonetic nane of' TONY MUMO This individual 19 known as a friend 0f' TONY MARCELLA 9 who also works in 8 me sort of supervisory capacity in the Western Distributing Conpany He can identify TONY MUMO (phonetic) Mr LA HIVE had no further detaile concerning the reported friend of' SIRHAN SIRHAN or the source of the informa- tion On 10/2/68 at Studio California_File Los_Angeleg_56-156 74 by _ SA LESLIE F . WARREN /1mt Date dictated 10/4/63 Thie document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of' the FBI It 19 the property of' the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency City Chicag? {aylor Ange City> ================================================== Page 33 ================================================== FD-3 02 (Rev. 4-15-64) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGA TION 10/8/68 Date Mr JOSEPH 4 LA HIVE, 4055 Tujunga Avenue Apartment 305 _ 9 Studio City, California, telephone 985-4681, advised the following: Mr LA HIVE _ $ President of the Van Nuys Democratic Club _ 9 attended the Senator ROBERT p KENNEDY campalgn party and speech on the evening of June 4, 1968, and the morning of June 5, 1968 at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles California At approximately 12:15 a .m on June 5 1968 when Senator KENNEDY finished his speech in the Embassy Room at the Ambassador Hotel, Mr LA HIVE and Mis8 ESTELYN DUFFY 9 now Mrs JOSEPH A LA HIVE , were standing in a corridor behind the stage area, a sort of anteroom Senator KENNEDY left the stage area and passed on Mr LA HIVE 8 left, followed by his party and proceeded through the swinging doors into the kitchen area Mr LA HIVE and Mi8s DUFFY started to follow the Senator and just about this time, Mr LA HIVE heard what sounded to him like gunfire, 8ix or seven shots coming from the kitchen area Mr LA HIVE left Miss DUFFY and rushed to the kitchen A woman with blood running down the middle of her forehead rushed out of the kitchen area toward Mr LA HIVE _ He noted panic and screams from the people in the kitchen LA HIVE at this point obgerved a man lying on the floor who appeared to be shot through the head He later learned that this man was PAUL SCHRADE _ There appeared to be another man lying on the floor who was not known to Mr LA HIVE _ He then saw Senator KENNEDY Lying on the floor and noted that blood was coming from a wound at the right ear He then observed a struggle going on between some men and noted that ROSIE GRIER_ 9 a member of the Senator KENNEDY party , wa8 headed toward the 8truggling group and LA HIVE followed GRIER At this point_ 9 he saw a gun on a table with about 8ix men ' 8 hands and arms struggling for possession of it It was noted that 3 finger was still in the trigger guard and LA HTVE stepped in to grab the gun and got hold of the barrel of the gun ROS IE GRIER had grabbed the su8pect and GRIER had placed his body on top of the suspect= who had hold of the gun At this point_ RAFER JOHNSON member of the Senator KENNEDY ~party, arrived andROSTE_ GRIER;-at Mp LA HTLs_suggestiony On at File # 1072768 Studio California Los Angeles 56-156 75 by Date dictated SA LESLIE F WARREN/dmr 1077/68 This document containg neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are 'not to be distributed outside your agency. City, ================================================== Page 34 ================================================== 2 LA 56-156 released the gun which had been taken out of the suspect' 8 hand Mr LA HIVE at this point grabbed the suspect' s left and threw a leg lock hold on it until the police arrived five or six minutes later There was considerable buffeting around in trying to transfer the suspect to the police and protect him from people who were shouting, kill fi him and similar remarks Only one suspect was observed by Mr _ LA HIVE _ Mr LA HIVE gtated that he had some small cuts on his face and some blood on his suit and face, but he did not know exactly how they there Mr LA HIVE at thi8 point returned to the anteroom area near the entrance to the Embessy Room to join Miss DUFFY , who had not proceeded to the kitchen with Mr LA HIVE - Mr LA HIVE recalled he and Miss DUFFY , when they arrived at the Embassy Room shortly before the Senator KENNEDY speech, were unable to in through the front entrance of the Embassy Rozm 80 they went to the rear and came in through the same kitchen area where Senator KENNEDY had been shot Mr LA HIVE said that there were a number of people in the kitchen at the time whom he thought were probably employees of the hotel, but made no particular note of them and had no recollection of having seen the suspect, later identified as SIRHAN SIRHAN , in the kitchen at that time The time he recalls seeing SIRHAN SIRHAN was at the time of the shooting a8 described above Mr LA HIVE related that following the removal of SIRHAN SIRHAN from the Ambassador Hotel by the police, a number of newscasters had interviewed him in the vicinity of the Embagsy Room at which time he related in substance the same story which he had furnished the police and the FBI with respect to his recollection of the inc ident surrounding the KENNEDY shooting He thinks that newecasters for the 76 ~ leg got get only ================================================== Page 35 ================================================== 3 Ea 56-156 National Broadcasting Company, the American Broadcasting Company_ 9 and KTLA , Channel 5, Los Angeles, were among the television newscasters who had interviewed him at the time Photographs of SIRHAN SIRHAN, as well a8 members of his were exhibited to Mr LA HIVE who said that he had no fecollecteve of ever having seen any of the individuals in the photographs at any time with the exception of SIRHAN SIRHAN _ ================================================== Page 36 ================================================== FD-3 02 (Rev. 4-15-64) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGA TION Date 10/3/68 RICHARD JOSEPH LITTLE was interviewed a€ his place of employment , OLNEY MOTORS 9 Missoula 9 Montana , where be is employed 25 a salesman . LITTLE advised as follows: VYDA FOOTE is his former mother-in-law . She is alo known as Myda Fredericks and is married to FREDERICK J FOOTE , wbo also uses the name of Dean Fredericks_ They reside in apartment #8 , 1845 Canyon Drive, Hollywood California LITTLE was visiting them in Los Angeles California , while on vacation from his job, and accompanied them to the AMBASSADOR HOTEL , Embassy Roon where ROBERT F KENNEDY Was to speak on June 4 , 1968 _ On the night of June 4 , 1968 while Senator KENNEDYspoke in the Embassy Room of the AMBASSADOR HOTEL , LITTLE was standing with Mr and Mrs _ FOOTE abou t 30 feet from the podiun used by Senator KENNEDY MYDA FOOTE was then reportedly on Sena tor KENNEDY 's staff attached to the Mexican-American Committee as 2 volunteer worker LITTLE stateg after Senator KENNEDY finished his speech and stepped off the podium 9 he was unable t0 see due to the large crowd packed into the Eubassy Room He and the FCOTEs thought Senator KENNEDY wou ld lea ve tbe Embassy Room via the corridor to the lobby and they there fore moved toward a large television set , which was located in the Embassy Room , and toward the corridor Instead Senator KENNEDY left tbe Embassy Room via 8 door leading toward the kitchen and was not seen by LITTLE or bis companions LITTLE stated he did not hear any shots fired and did not see SIRHAN BISHARA SIRHAN at any time prior to the shooting On being shown photogra of 8 IRHAN 9 LoS A ngeles Police Department #BK-495 0 139 9 taken on June 5, 1968 2 he advised he saw tbis indi- vidual in the custody of police officers_ 9 when the officers brought him through the corridor of the AMBASSADOR HOTEL after the shooting He did not 2 good look 2 * him then, due to the large crowd jammed together 78 9/18/68 Missoula Montana File # BT #173-28 On at La #56-158 SA JORN C MOE/1ly 9/24/68 by Date dictated containg neither recommendationg nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI ad is loaned to This document your agency; it &d its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. 28 , bim , pbs get ================================================== Page 37 ================================================== BT #173-28 Page 2 LITTLE reca lled, after Senator KENNEDY left the podium and Enbassy Room , apparently toward the kitchen, one of the KENNEDY girls_ in uniform, Fhose identity he did not know , camne running Out Of the kitchen to the lobby of tbe Embassy Room Shouting 9 "They shot bim" He was unable t0 hear or determine who she was referring to_ Later someone said Sena tor KEWneDY had been shot _ He then beard Someone shouting , "Don 1 t kill bim" He thought this person was referring t0 SIRHAN _ By this be stated be made his way to the 'door leading from the Embassy Room toward tbe kitchen end, While there , someone said, "Don t Zet anyone else in" thereafter assisted in keeping people from entering the door leading to the kitchen, but he did recall be let in tbree doctors and one priest , while he was standing there LITTLE stated he tlought he recalled looking at bis wa tch about the time someone mentioned Sena tor KENNEY bad been shot and, insofar as he can recall, the time was 12:13 a .m. , June 5, 1968 _ The following description and background information concerning RICHARD JOSEPH LITTLE Wes obtained through observation and interview: Race White Sex Ma le Na tionality American 'Date of birth PII Place of birth Hami ]ton, Montana Height 5' 10" Weight 150# Hair Blond Eyes Blue Build Slender Education Graduated from Hamilton_ High School, Hami lton , Montana and attended Los Angeles City College, Los Angeles, California, for one year 78 time, He, ================================================== Page 38 ================================================== Br #173-28 Page 3 Eaployment Car salesman at OLNBY MCTORS ) Missoula ) Montana for past one and one-half years Military service U . 8 . Air Force, 1952-1956 , honorable discharge Marital stats Divorced Current residence 2114 4a 38th Street, Missoula 9 Montana Remarks Claims be has 10 crimina 1 record 80 ================================================== Page 39 ================================================== Ca 55-156 Jos /gja Recordg of the Los Angeles, California Police Department indicate that JOHN B MA RTIN, Washngton, DS C _ Staff of Senator ROBERT F KENNEDY = ) was present in or adjacent to the Emba 8 8y Ballroom, Ambagsador Hotel 9 on June 4,5, 1968, which room was being utilized the campaign force8 of the late Senator ROBERT F KENNEDY to hear the regulte of the Califorria primary election and to celebrate the Senator' € victory in California 81 by ================================================== Page 40 ================================================== NK 44-872 HHR/ js The Newark Division of the FBI advised the following On October 28_ 9 1968, ROXANE EBERLEIN_ 18 Aiken Avenue , Princetong New Jersey , Assistant to JOHN B MARTIN 9 advised that MARTIN 9 a former Ambassador to the Dominican ublic, is actively participating in HUMPHREY ' 8 election campaign She said LAWRENCE 0 BRIEN would know how to reach MARTIN 9 as would HUMPHREY S secretary or chief aide traveling with him EBERLEIN said MARTIN was in the Ambagsador Hotel at the time of KENNEDY S shooting He had conferred briefly with the Senator about comments he would include in his address in the ballroom_ KENNEDY left for the ballroom while MARTIN remained behind He left the suite to a smoke in the hallway and had intended to observe KENNEDY ' s speech on television Somebody_ 9 said EBERLEIN , watching the proceedings , located MARTIN and told hin about the shooting EBERLEIN said the foregoing could be attested to by Mrs MARTIN who is at their 9 ummer home in Nestoria, Michigan, telephone 906-323-6305 She said MARTIN 9 to the best of her knowledge 9 left no itinerary where he could be located She believed hin to be traveling either with HUMPHREY or ahead of helping set up speeches and talking to newspapermen , etc . 82 Rep' get hin, ================================================== Page 41 ================================================== FD-302 (Rev. 4-15-64} FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 10/22/68 Mr JA CK W , MC GRATH 9 829 North Vendome Street , LosAngeles, California, telephone 661-5836, related the following: Mr MC GRATH , who wa8 a student at San Fernando state Northridge , California, during the early part of' Colgage;, is currently employed a8 a campaign worker for Congreseman JIM JAMES) CORMAN, 9043 Woodley Avenue 3 Sepulveda, California On the evening of' June 4, 1968 9 and the morning of' June 5, 3 Mr MC GRATH had attended the Senator ROBERT F KENNEDY campaign party at the Ambasgador Hotel, Los Angeles At the time of' the shooting of' Senator KENNEDY 9 Mr MC GRATH was in a corner of' the Embassy Room and did not witness any of' the ehooting nor did he see SIRHAN SIRHAN. Mr MC GRATH gaid that he had been interviewed by the Los Angeles Police Department a8 a potential witness subsequent to the shooting of Senator KENNEDY_ On 10/17/68 at Los Angeles 9 Calif ornia File # Los Angeles_56-156 83 SA LESLIE F WARREN /eb 10/17/68 by Date dictated This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It i8 the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents &re not to be distributed outside your agency. 1968 ================================================== Page 42 ================================================== FD-302 (Rcv. 4-15-64) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 1 Date 10/4/68 Mr . PATRICK TIFFANY McLA UGEL IN 9 135 North Montgonery (Garage Apartment ) Memphis Tenneasee enployed the Inter - natIonal-D1v1s1on of Plough; Ircorporated 9 2600 Poplar Avenue 038 Intervlewed at his office and he furniehed the fOllowLng informati on : McLAUGHLIN vent t0 tke Ambagsador Hotel on tenight Senator ROBERT F KENNEDY Vas shot with Mr RICHARD ORFALEA Neither had any officiel connection W1th the Kennedy Party but Mr McLAUGHL IN considerd biiself to b a' supporter of Mr . KENNEDY _ They arrIved at the hotel at about 10 Pam . and at- tended the: speech made In the Ba 1X Room They rema ined In the 4 back near the television camera and left the Ba11 Roon 28 soon 28 the speech wa8 over McLA UGFLIN d1d not hear any Bhot but M ne heard' someone yell "flre and saw 2 lady-fall to the floor in the corridor near the kitchea. He was approxImetely 20 to 30 feet away from the kItchen corridor Mr- McLAUGHL IN said that be knen nothing,abqut the 853a581n of Senazor KENNEDY ; that the nam0 and' photograph Of S IRHAN 5 KRHAN mean: nothing"to hin and that he never s2w the 833a831n until approxinately 40 minutes after the Shoot Ing Ghen the police egcorted this man out of the kItchen ' and tbrough the Bil1 Room 0)1 An Fe advised that he was acquainted Eith Several other people nho' attended this Speech One wa5 Mr JACK-MCGRATH who attended' che San Fernando Valley State College In 1968 _ Another 588 Miss EL IZEBETH HERMAN Gbo works for Station KNXT In Los Angeles There 528 a1so 2 man named JOE DYER who 18 a reporter Ior" KNXT and Bho 11veg In tbe Watts area of Los Aageles _ 4: nother reported naned' JEN, BROWN Gho 1s employed by KNXT; and TF. _ the. Columbia Broadcast Systen' 83_ 2 recorder was there BICHARD ORFALEA a180 brooght tro girl cous Ins of hls to the affafr . 84 On 9/30 /68 at Mempbls Tennessee File # Memphis 62-1605 LG Angeles 56-156 by SA CYRIL F BUSCE :bb Date dictated 9 /30/68 Thig document containg neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and i8 loaned to your agency; it and it contentg are not to be digtributed outside your agency by 1ng ================================================== Page 43 ================================================== HE 62-1605 2 Hr HcLAUGHLIN said that he dces . not knor anyone maned DAVID ROCHE PATRICK "TrFaxY McLAUGELIN is 8 mative Of Los Angeles , having been born ther He' i8 5 feet PII 72 Inches tall ) weighs 138 pound3 9 abd bag br" own bair end eyes He attended the University ot Southern California and the American Institute of Foreign Trade at Phoenix , Ar izona '35 ================================================== Page 44 ================================================== FD-3 02 (Rev. 4-15-64) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGA TION Date 11/19/63 RONALD ALLEN NORMAN 17102 Adlon Road 9 Encino, California, telephone ST 3-3949 was interviewed at this location and furnighed the following information: He i8 a third year student at the University Of Southern California 9 Los Angeles Between 3:30 p.Il_ and 9:00 P.n_ on June 4, 1963, he and an acquaintance 9 HARVEY PEPPER _ 9 612 North Kings Road Los Angeles arrived at the Ambasgador Hotel, 3400 Wilghire Boulevard 9 Los Angeles 9 to attend a celebration for Senator ROBERT @ KENNEDY NORMAN and PEPPER wandered if around the hotel looking for persons until approrinately 1l:33 P . Il at which time they met an acquaintance 9 SUE HARRTS who had been ac ting a8 a press secretary for Senatoz XNVSDY [ € campaign in Southern California HARRIS provided NORMAN and PEPPER with press passes and suggested that if they wanted to see Senator KENNEDY 9 they could wait in the press roon located behind the speakers platform in the Embassy Room > sinc e the Senator wa8 expected to pass through this location following his address8 NORMAN and PEPPER then proceeded to this press room where thirty to forty news media representatives had gathered to await the completion of Senator KENNEDY S address NORMAN recalled that following his address Senator KENNEDY proceeded directly through 8 passage behind the speakers platform to a corridor leading to the kitchen area As NORMAN proceeded frOil the press room to this corridor he heard screams coning Zron the kritchen area He definitely did not hear any shots fired 9 or any sounds which he would have interpreted 2s such NORMAN and PEPPER then rushed into the kitchen aree , where they were told that Senator KENNEDY had been shot NORMAN recalled that approximately seventy five persons had already gathered in the kitchen area and that Senator KENNEDY was lying onl the floor The area became quite noisy and congested as people continued to gather at this location NORMAN did not observe anyone who_appeared a8 though he may have been responsible for the shooting_ On 11/3/63 at Encino 9 California File #Los Angeles 56-156 86 by SA RTCHARD J RAYSA/eb Date dictated 11/15/63 This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. i famoug ================================================== Page 45 ================================================== 2 LA 56-156 NORMAN and PEPPER remained in the kitchen area for approximately five minutes after which they proceeded to a room at the hotel by SUE HARRIS HARRIS 9 who had been packing for her travel to Chicago with the Kennedy campaign party 9 had already heard about the shooting on the television NORMAN and PEPPER remained in HARRIS ' hotel room for fifteen to twenty minutes 9 and then left the hotel at approximately 12:45 a mil 9 June 5 9 1963 . NORMAN was shown a photograph of SIRHAN BISHARA SIRHAN 9 including a photograph 0f this individual taken June 5 1963 9 by the Los Angeles Police Department After viewing these photographs NORMAN advised that he did not observe anyone res 'embling this individual at the Ambas sador Hotel on June 4-5_ 9 1963_ or anywhere elge prior to these dates NORMAN was also shown photographs of ADEL SIRHAN 9 SHARIF SIRHAN SAIDALLAH SIRHAN 5 and MUNIR SIRHAN and after viewing same , advised that to the best of his Inowiedge , he has never observed any of the individuals depicted in these photographs _ NORMAN advised that PEPPER has never indicated to him that he PEPPER) observed soreone at the Ambassador Hotel on June 44 1963 2 or June 5 1963, who resenbled SIRHAN BISHARA SIRHAN NORMAN noted that he was with PEPPER virtually the entire evening of June 4 9 1963. 9 and that he did not hingelf observe anyone resenbling photographs he has seen Of thig individual NORMAN then volunteered that 6i PEPPER is a notorious story teller"i who frequently fabricates or exaggerates his observations or experiences NORMAN further described PEPPER as an individual who seeks attention As an illustration, NORMAN recalled a recent incident in which PEPPER- while visiting Las Vegas 9 was mistaken for a Hollywood celebrity and for several days 9 assumed the identity of this celebrity to the extent of accepting free room , board 9 and publicity fromn a Las Vegas hotel NORMAN was unable to furnish any additional information regarding the shooting of Senator ROBERT R KENNEDY 87 occupied ================================================== Page 46 ================================================== FD-3 02 (Rev. 4-15-64 ) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 10/3/63 Date HARVEY PEPPER , 612 North Kings Road _ Los Angeles (652-5366) was interviewed at this location and furnished the following information: He was born and i8 presently PII unemployed_ At approximately 3:30 p.m- on June 1963 , he and one RON" NORMAN 9 current addres8 unknown arrived at the Ambassador Hotel , 3400 Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles 9 for the purpose of attending a reception for Senator ROBERT F KENNEDY From 3:30 p . m _ to approxinately 11.45 p.m 9 PEPPER and NORMAN wandered around the hotel with no particular objective At approximately 9:30 p . m . , as PEPPER and NORMAN were mingling with the crowd in the main lobby of the hotel, PEPPER observed a young, sloppily dressed individual 9 who he later recognized from' photographs as being identical to SIRHAN BISHARA SIRHAN This individual was standing with four other individuals al1 approximately 40 years of age and dressed in suits and ties near a fountain in the lobby PEPPER recalled that his first impression was that the four well dressed individuals were arres ting this youth Although PEPPER did not hear or obgerve any words exchanged between the four well dressed individuals and this youth these individuals were standing in a small circle, and PEPPER defini tely feels that al1 were part of the same group PEPPER only observed these five individuals for an instant from a distance of approximately ten feet He was unable to describe these individuals other than to say that the four well dressed individuais al1 appeared to be approximately 40 years of age and light complected White males and that the youth, he later recognized from Los Angeles Police Department LAPD ) photo- graphs as being identical to SIRHAN BISHARA SIRHAN was youthful in appearance slovenly attired _ 2 and dark complected . This latter individual did not appear to have anything in his hands and was not wearing 8 hat PEPPER does not know whether NORMAN observed these individuals and PEPPER has never discussed his observations with NORMAN On 9/26/63at Los_Angeles California_File # Los Angeles 56-156 88 by SA RICHARD J RAYSA/eb Date dictated 10/2/63 This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are 'not to be distributed outside your agency. 4 , ================================================== Page 47 ================================================== 2 LA 56-156 PEPPER noted that at approrimately 12:20 a . m June 5 1963 he again observed the above described youth being jed from the lobby to the entrance of the hotel, apparently in cus tody of authorities PEPPER was shown photographs of SIRHAN BISHARA SIRHAN ADEL SIRHAN , SHARTF SIRHAN SAIDALLAH SIRHAN and MUNIR SIRHAN After viewing these photographs 9 PEPPER stated that he is certain that the photographs of SIRHAN BISHARA SIRHAN are identical to the above described youth he obgerved in the hotel lobby PEPPER indicated that , to the best of his knowledge 9 he has never observed the individuals depicted in the photographs of ADEL SIRHAN 9 SHARIF SIRHAN 9 SAIDALLAH SIRHAN or MUNIR SIRHAN 9 and that he is positive that none Of these individuals resembled the above described four well dressed individuals he observed in the hotel lobby At approximately 11:45 p . ml . 9 PEPPER met an cquaintance 9 SUE HARRLS who had been ac ting as a press sec retary for the KENNEDY campaign in Southern California HARRIS supplied PCPPER and HOWARD with press passes ana told then if they wanted to shake hands with Senator KENNEDY they should wait in the press room located behind the spealcer' 8 podium in the Embassy Room_ 9 since Senator KENNEDY was expected to pas€ through this location following his address PEPPER and HOTARD then proceeded to this Press rOOI , where they remained until Senator KENNEDY finished a short address in the Embassy Room PEPPER estimates that approximately fifty persons $ most of thei wearing press passes had gathered in the press room Senator KENNEDY 9 after completing his address proceeded directly through the passage behind the speakers platform to the corridor leading to the kitchen 9 thus bypassing the press roon PEPPER proceeded to this corridor and, upon" reaching this location, heard an unrecalled number of muffled noises , which sounded like dishes brealing ahead of him in the corridor At thig point , PEPPER thought that someone had probably upset one 0f the stainles8 steel carts situated along the sides Of the corridor PEPPER continued through 89 ================================================== Page 48 ================================================== IA 56-156 the corridor to the titchen area and was unaware that anyone had been shot until reaching this location and observing a newsman who had been shot in the hip PEPPER recalled that as he passed into the kitchen area , 8 Omleone closed and stood in front of the door leading to the corridor PEPPER estimated that approximately 100 persons were in the kitchen at this point PEPPER passed through a group of individuals standing near the center 0f the kitchen and observed Senator KENNEDY lying on the floor with his head in a of blood PEPPER observed Senator KENNEDY 8 lips moving but did not actually hear any words spoken More people began rushing into the kitchen_ 9 and the area became quite noisy and congested At no time did PEPPER observe anyone in the corridor or kitchen area who resembled photographs of SIRHAN BISHARA SIRHAN_ Nor did PEPPER observe anyone who appeared as though he might have been responsible for the shooting_ PEPPER remained in the kitchen area for three or four minutes and then proceeded to a roon at the hotel occupied by SUE HARRLS HARRIS had earlier gone to her hozel room topack for her travel to Chicago with the Senator KENNEDY campaign party By the time PEPPER reached HARRLS hotel rooml , HARRIS had already heard about the shooting on television PEPPER remlained in HARRIS 1 hotel room for between ten to fifteen minutes and then proceeded to the Lobby where he observed the above described individual 9 he later identified as being identical to SIRHAN BISHARA SIRHAN being led from the Lobby t0 the hotel entrance PEPPER left the hotel at approximately 12:45 a m June 5 90 pool 1963 ================================================== Page 49 ================================================== FD-3 02 (Rev. 4-15-64) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 10/18/68 STEVEN MICHAEL PLEVIN , Apartment 1, 6510 Madrid Avenue _ ) Isla Vista, California home address 2762 Tucker Lane $ Los Alamitos , California_ 9 student at University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) advised that on Tuesday, June 4, 1968, he journeyed from Isia Vista to Los Angeles with several other students at the University of California, Santa Barbara who were members of the UCSB Students for Kennedy _ They obtained 8 room on the third floor of the Ambassador Hotel in order to attend the KENNEDY victory rally and stay overnight Shortly after midnight on Wednesday 9 June 5, PLEVIN went from the UCSB room to the hallway outside the KENNEDY suite on the ffth floor He saw Senator ROBERT KENNEDY emerge from his suite with his Wife, greet his well-wishers in the hallway and then proceed toward the main ballroom PLEVIN eventually made his way back to the UCSB room , but on his way he heard someone shout that KENNEDY had been shot . He returned to the UCSB room and wa tched the television coverage of the aftermath of the shooting He stated that he had not been on the first floor of the hotel during the pertinent period, had no firsthand information on the shootings and had observed no suspicious activity in the Vicinity before the 8hooting He stated that the following person8 in the UCSB delegation had been reported in the main ballroom at the time of the shooting, but had undoubcedly been interviewed before this time : LINCA BOND , currently enrolled at UCSB and living in San Rafael Hall, UCSB VALERIE SCHULTE , UCSB _ student now living at 6637 Del Plaja , Isla Vista RICHARD FRICK, now attending University of Chicago Law School On 10/16/68 at Isla Vista, California File # Log Angeles 56-156 91 SA GORDON B_ PLAYMAN/yfs /68 by Date This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It 8 the property of the FBI &nd is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are 'not to be distributed outside your agency. dictatedl 0 /17_ ================================================== Page 50 ================================================== FD-302 (Rev. 1-25-6 0) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIG JN Date 10/4/68 Mr BERT SPISZMAN , 5921 Simpson Avenue 3 North Hollywood_ Ca lifornia , telephone number '877-8394 employed a8 a teacher of History and Science at the Thomas Starr King Junior High School, 4201 Fountain Avenue Los Angeles Ca lifornia, telephone number 664- ~ 1l76, advised the foilowing: Mr SPISZMAN said he had attended the Senator ROBERT # KENNEDY campaign party at the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles on the evening of June 4 , 1968 , and the morning of June 5, 1968. Following the conc lusion of Senator ROBERT F KENNEDY 8 speech in the Embassy Room of this hotel at approximately 12 15 a m onl June 5, 1968, Mr SPISZMAN observed Senator KENNEDY and a group of persons following him leave the stage and move into 8 corridor leading towards the kitchen _ Mr SPISZMAN at the time was s tanding in 8 sma11 anteroom at the rear of the 8 tage and adjacent to the corridor He at this point heard some noises which sounded to him as if they were exposed electrical circuits popping- His impression wa8 that perhaps some of the television cables had broken He then heard the considerable noise and confusion coming from the kitchen area and people began screaming, and he saW one woman coming back towards the Embassy Room area who had blood on her forehead He began to learn from people around him that there had been some Shooting, however, he did not observe the shooting and he at this point went back into the entrance of the Embassy Room where he attempted to quiet 8 ome of the people who were beginning to become hysterical He never did go into the kitchen area and consequently did not see anything that occurred there He said that he did not see SIRHAN SIRHAN or a.ny of the victims of the shooting with the possible exception that the woman with the blood on her head could have been one of the victims 0f the shooting but he was not aware of her identity or if this was a fact Photographs of SIRHAN SIRHAN and members of his family were exhibited to Mr SPISZMAN who remarked that he had no recollection of seeing &ny of these persons in the photographs at any time 92 9/27/68 Los Angeles } California File Los Angeles 56-156 On at by SA IESLIE F WARREN mcr Date dictated 10/1/68 Thls document contains nelthentecommendations nor concluslons of the FBI: It 48 the property of the FBI 'and Is Joaned t0 Your agencyi; It and Its contents are not to be dIstrlbuted outs lde Your agency. 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