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it down-- I know that religion was a
tremendous factor I do feel that most of
the Protestants if I had to guess felt
certainly that a Catholic had a right to
be President , but likewise _ they were con-
cerned. They were a little bit afraid for
a Catholic to be President. We lost this
county, (Cabel County) Kennedy
was defeated
and Humphrey won_ I think Kennedy would
have won without question had he not been
a Catholic But I think my prediction was
reasonably valid because we put the religious
issue to bed in West Virginia in 1960
with vegied to presidential campaigns_ I
believe
Alfred Chapman, a West Virginia delegate at the 1960
Democratic National Convention, was quite specific on the antag-
onism that he personally encountered during the primary:
Young: What was the basis of the ridicule
and the smearing? What were the charges
leveled against you most frequently?
Chapman: That he was a Catholic and Cath-
olics didn' t have a chance _ That I ought
to have been ashamed of myself for pushing
3 Catholic for a high office of President
Young: Mr - Chapman, a minute ago while I
was changing the tape you_ mentioned that
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you yourself were personally attacked by
this_ Would you describe that, that you
were
telling
Chapman: I was Yes _ The wife had received
telephone calls nearly every in the
week for the entire years of 1959 and 1960,
Even after I came back from the Convention,
I was attacked very brutally She would_
receive telephone calls teliing her to look
out the window that two men in their white
coats were coming down to me with a
strait jacket_ She said_ "1 What are you
talking about?" 41 Well, 01 he says 11 he' $ a
nut. He ' s an idiot_ He belongs in a nut
house because he' s supporting Jack Kennedy. 101
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13- Alfred Chapman, recorded interview by William Young, Feb-
ruary 15 i965, pp. 14-15, John F Kennedy Library Oral
History Program_
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Charles M , Love Jr. an attorney-at-law, vias in charge of
the fourteenth district , and discusses the
peopkwho threatened
him; the pople who feared Kennedy
S connection with the Roman
Catholic Church:
Young Did you ever experience any per-
sonal attacks or anonymous mail from anti-
Catholics because of your support for the
Senator?
Love I really did, Do you want to see them?
I have many in my file They weren t all
anonymous _ Yes , I had a lot of anonymous
attacks but I also had letters that were
signed by people-- people didn' t make any
bones about signing them and sending them
to you,
Young Nell, while you re
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file could I ask you this question-
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you have any anonymous phone calls?
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Love 8 Yes _ Host of them were people apparently 'oy .
without much education or learning-
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vile names Some 0f them called me- S
Young: Did you very many during the
course of the campai
Love: Oh _ yes-- many of them, I have some
letters that were signed-
Young 8 Mr _ Love would you please read an
excerpt from one or two letters or summarize
the general nature of the anti-Catholic
attacks which come to your attention at
least?
Love Well, this attack came from people
a11 over the state-- I think from more or
less uneducated people generally, and then
a great deal of literature was mailed into
West Virginia from out of the state_ I had
anonymous
telephone calls and also
would accost me on the street and talk to
me about it_ One of the letters that I rec-
eived has this: "Your advocacy of the Kenn-
cause indicates clearly that you know
little indeed of the dark history 0f the
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Roman Church per se, brilliant lawyer though
you may be _ Why any Protestant would
or could advocate the cause of any Cath-
olic for President of this great and pre-
dominantly Protestant nation, is I confess,
past my ken I Now I' m still quoting: 6 I
would request that you explain to me
you would trust any Catholic after knowing
that this young weakling rescinded his
acceptance at the dedicatory ceremony of
the Philadelphia chapel on orders of the
Roman Catholic bishop_ Might he not 25
President be equally dominated by tne Church
masters even though world-shocking decisions
were to be made . Wake up Dir _ Love, while
there is still yet time and vot for anybody
but Kennedy _
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Michael Gretchen, who headed District Six, the area
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omprised of the coal miners and the United Mine Workers Union,
was particularly enlightening even though this district was
pro-Kennedy and heavily Catholic . Religion was thus , not a
key issue in every district:
Young: Vike , there" S something else that
always comes up in any discussion of the
1960 primary and that of course, is the
issue of the president' s religion Since
this i8 a part of West Virginia which con-
tains greater number 0f members of the
Catholic faith, would you comment on his
religion as it affected the campaign in
this part of the state?
Gretchen: I don' + think that religion aff-
ected the campaign one way or the other
but 0f course the majority_ of the
Catholic
people in this area were to see a man
iike Kennedy running for the presidency_
But there were people_ in this area who
were more or les8 against Catholics but
they were 1007 for Kennedy It seemed like
everybody was out for him because Senator
14_ Charles Love , recorded interview by William Young, July
14 , 1964 , pp. 5-6, John F Kennedy Oral History Program_
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Kennedy impressed them that he was a
man and would make a good president_ and
religion, in my opigion, did not enter
into the campaign
John Chernenko als0 denied that religion was a major
factor in the primary _ But here again, it is important to
note that Chernenko was county chairman of Brooke Countyr
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very cosmopolitan and more liberal county_ His reference to
Boston agitators creating the religious conflict, was quite
interesting to me :
Young: Well John, Brooke County is a county
that has a very cosmopolitan population,
a great many immigrants of course, from
many different parts of Europe _ How did
religion figure as an issue in this partic_
ular part 0f the state? In the primary
election?
Chernenko ; Religion wasn' t an issue in
our county
Young: you mean there weren' t then sermons
either for or against Kennedy, and there
were not
Chernenko: There were a few crackpots who
would come in from Boston, but they didn' t
stay too long:
Young: You mean these were the people that
were 'sticring URoanti-Catholic sentiment?
Chernenko: Yes _
William Thaw, of Tyler County, which is basically rural
but middle class, brings us back to the embroiling conflict
of religion His remarks seem to typify the prevai
feeling of the voluminous interviews recorded:
15- Michael Gretchen recorded interview by Willian Young,
February 23 , 1965, pp, L- 5, John F Kennedy Library Oral
History Program.
16- John Chernenko , recorded interview by William Young, Sept-
8 1964 , p. 4 , John F Kennedy Oraly History Program
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Young: Did religion become an issue in
the campaign in Tyler County?
Thaw: Yes , we had 3 very bad situation here ,
where I would say those people who were
strong church of' the Frotestant
faith were very opposed to the President' s
candidacy on 3 re ligious basis And I ran
into 3 great deal of religious bigotry.
Young: Well do you remember any of the
exact
detaiis
of what they feared from
the possibility of a Catholic President?
Thaw The old old story_ you know ; the
Pope S going to run the White" House-- this,
that, and the other I am a member of the
Masonic lodge and I am a Shriner_ I had
a member 0f the Masonic lodge
come to me
and ask me how I could support Kennedy aand
be a Mason. Now , that S how bad it
Young: Mayor Thaw_ did you find the. ob-
jection on religious ground limited tq
any particular denomination? Were some
denominations more tolerant and others less
tolerant?
Thaw: No _ I think it was a general thing:
I think the more fundamental the religion,
the more vigorous the opposition. Of
course I still think that after the votes
have been counted here in the primary--
I really believe, in fact not only in the
primary but in the
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I_ think in
the final analysis_ those people who were
using Yezigion against Kennedy = were against
hin anyway
In an interview with Reverend Harley Evan Bailey of Wood
County, again the interviewer asked if particular denom-
ination was more boisterous and vocal on the religious issue.
Bailey contends that the Baptist and Methodist denominations
were the most active in the anti-Catholic crusade 18
There are many conclusions that "can be ascertained from
these recorded interviews _ Perhaps the most revealing deduction
17 - William Thaw recorded interview by William Young, July 31,
1964 , pp. 4- 5 , John F Kennedy Library Oral History Program
18- Reverend Harley Evan Bailey= recorded interview by William
December 5, 1964 , Pa
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John F Kennedy Library
Oral History Program
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was that religious bigotry was prevalent , especially in the
rural areas where Catholics were either of a small percentage
or of no percentage at al1 In fact, as the West Virginia
primary entered the final weeks , it appeared that there was
more concern among Protestants about Church pressures on a Cath-
olic candidate vnere there mere almost no Catholics than there
were in areas with substantial number of Catholics_ It seemed
that living and working among them as neighbors inclined people
to be less attentive to such remote considerations _ The
phenomenon of assimilation throughout decades of American social
history was
being pointed up. Not al1 of the staff leaders
witnessed this bigotry; the levels of religious intoleration
was dependent upon socio-economic boundaries .
There were four basic fears of the Protestants to a
Catholic President: (1) American Catholicism is not essentially
different from historic European Catholicism, and thus what
has happened in Spain could: happen here ; (2) Catholics, when
strong enough, will seek preferential legislation: (3) A
Catholic might have an allegiance above his allegiance to
the Constitution; and (4) We do not know what Catholics really
believe because there is S0 little communication with
them. 19
Such allegations demanded 3 personal response from Sen-
ator Kennedy: 01 When I swore to preserve, protect and defend'
the Constitution as Commander of a World War II PT boat lost
in action, no one said my
religion made me ineligible ; no one
19- Report , "The Fears of Protestantism_ April 4 , 1960 ,
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has found a single vote of mine in 14 years of Congressional
service which did not demonstrate complete independence of
action, and complete dedication to keeping church and state
separate_ Time after time, I have answered every question,
differing with leaders of my own church and satisfied the leaders
of every other church. "
20
It is pertinent to note that Kennedy had opposed a number
of positions taken by Catholic organizations and members of
the hierarchy. He attented non-Catholic schools , from the
elementary grades to Harvard. In Congres8 , Kennedy favored aid
to Yugaslavia, aid to Communist sattelite states, and the nam-
of James B , Conant as our first ambassador to West Ger-
many . Some Catholic groups opposed the first two, and Catholics
generally bridled at Conant because of his opposition to paro-
chial schools as perpetuating a dual educational system he
believed unhealthy for America_
On a lighter note, on the night of the primary, Kennedy
went with his friend Ben Bradlee to a pornagraphic film. They
wondered aloud if the movie was on the Catholic index of for-
bidden films (it was ) and whether or not there were any votes
in it either way for Kennedy in allegedly anti-Catholic West
Virginia if it were known that he was in attendance _
21
The West Virginia primary resulted in a
convincing victory
for the Senator from Massachusetts_ In this 95 Protestant
state, Kennedy carried 61% of the vote and 48 out of the 55
20- Speech John F Kennedy to West Virginia Democrats April
18 1960, Pre-Presidential Papers Papers of President
lennedy, John F Rennedy Library
?1- Benjamin Bradlee _ Conversations with Kennedy . p. 27 .
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counties, which lead many political observers to claim that
Kennedy actually
von the nomination in xiest Virginia rather
than in Los Angeles, because he deadened the one damaging
aspect of his vote-getting ability; his religion.
There were a
myriad of reasons Kennedy captured the
West Virginia primary_ Bob Myers reflects on a few of these
reasons : 1i He spent hours and days and: days going to every nook
and cranny of West Virginia, saw our problem _ was tremendously
impressed by the gentleness of our people - Those of us that
know New Yorkers or New Englanders sometimes' regard them as
harsh , S0 I think he was impressed by this gentleness and pol-
iteness that West Virginia had shown to him_ He remarked on
that a number of times . But all in all, those of us that started
early were
immediately captured by his personal magnetism, the
magnetism of his family as a total unit, and the total Kennedy
package - And through him this image was projected throughout
the state _ I think Kennedy
was
our President. " 22 aM -
Chapman, First District delegate to the Democratic Nat-
ional Convention in Los Angeles _ summarized in an interview
the specific attraction that Kennedy had in West Virginia:
Young: Mr _ Chapman, if you were to sum -
marize . what do you think were the chief
reasons for Senato Kennedy' s victory
in the First District?
Chapman: He was forward ; he was honest in
every 8 tatement that he made ; he appealed
to the People the same as Woodrow Wilson
appealed to the people in 1912
22- Bob Myers , recorded interview by William Young, p. 20,
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Young Can you think of anything that
Senator Lennedy advocated that had any
particular appeal in this part 0f west
Virginia? {e dor t think of this. section
a5 being part of the Coalfield Appalachia.
Is there anything_in the Lennedy program
that vias directed to You?
Chapman
8 to eliminate poverty.
Young The poverty appeal had some affect
here then?
Chapman That' s right. That' s right be-
cause at athat time the mills were mov -
ing out Wheeling teel has . moved into the
state of Ohio sue to taxation. The , people
here were left with their homes and no
employment . The factories were shutting dov _
The mines weren' t operating steadily. There-
fore he came with an appeal that he would
try to help the people in the state of
West Virginia and ytetesez; it was neccess_
ary, in the United States
Even though the primary was over, the ramifications of Ol
the religious issue were still apparent. Yet in examining the
recorded interviews there exists some discrepancy as to the im-
pact of Catholicism upon the general election_ Myers claims
that there was a diminution of anti-Catholic feeling in West
Virginia by the general election because the people were proud
that they were able to participate forcibly in a general election
and that they had proven to the nation that West Virginia was
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not a state of bigots _
However, Reverend Bailey claims that the people who were
opposed to Kennedy in the primary fought him even harder between
the primary and the general
election. 25
Though there are contra-
dictions on this point, there was a trend after the primary for
23- Alfred Chapman, recorded interview by William Young, Pp. 18-19_
24 - Op.cit' pp 11-12
25- Rev . Bailey, recorded interview William Young, P. 5. by
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state politicians to shy away from Kennedy
012 the Democratic
ticket. Here agairi, the evidence is not conclusive:
Young: Br _ Bailey, do Jou think that the
Democratic politicians running on the Dem-
ocratic ticket in the general election felt
that a Catholic at the head of the ticket
might pull votes away from them? Was there
any relunctance on the part of the guber-
natorial or senatorial candidates to be
associated with the national ticket in the
general e lection, because of the Presi-
dent & religion?
Rev Bailey: There was a little shyness there
but I don t think_ it amounted to a whole
lot. I think that on the part of some
there was the fact that they just wanted
to pull away, but as a whole Z6don' +
think that was too noticeable
Charles Love' S interview was a bit more enlightening
concerning state politician" s) reluctance to join the Kennedy
ticket. However, Love could only remember that before the
primary, Kennedy received little support from the regular state
politicians running for re-election. It is hard to ascertain
whether this was out 0f an anti-Catholic sentiment or a : complete
abhorrence with Kennedy' s stands on contemporary issues .
There was a very limited amount of documentation on the
role kennedy"
S Catholicism played in West Virginia after the
primary, The paucity of lable information is regrettable _
Yet the impact during the mary is amply portrayed by the
interviews
Kennedy' s win in West Virginia, a victory for his precise
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organizational support , and his addressing the issues in an
exhaustive campaign effort, vias well-deserved. In addition,
political scientists wh 0 argued that. Kennedy should not have
risked his candidacy in West Virginia because 0f the divisive
religious issue, completely underestimated the charm of the
West Virginia voter. This voter, though well beneath the
median income i8 fiercely proud and patriotic. cennedy
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identity vith Roosevelt, the Navy and his promise to provide
relief in Appalachia if elected President , provided Kennedy
with the to victory.
Kennedy won the nomination in West Virginia when he . proved
to the nation that a Catholic could win in a non-Catholic
state; that voting against him because of his religion, was
bigoted and un-American. West Virginia did not want to think
of herself as un-American; she voted for Kennedy.
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SELECTED_BIBLIOGRAPHY
ARTICLES :
Knebel _ Fletcher- Look_Wagazine' March 3, 1959 . p. 12 ,
BOOKS :
Bradlee , Benjamin C Conversations With Kennedy, New York,
W.W Norton & Company, 1975.
Davis , James W _ Springboard_ to the White House: Presidential
Primaries - How They Are_ Fought and Won New York, Thomas
Y crowell Company , 1967 _
Dulce Berton and Richter, Edward J Religion and the Presi-
dency' New York, The Maclillian Company, 1962_
Fuchs Lawrence H , John F Kennedy_and_ American Catholicism.
New York, Meredith Press 1967 _
0' Donnell Kenne th P et.al_ Johnny We_Hardly_ inew_Ye
New York, Little, Brown and Company , 1972-
Peirce, Neal R The Border South States _ New York, W . I , Norton
& Company , 1975
White Theodore H The_Naking of the President 1960 . New
York_ Atheneum House Inc 1961
ORAL HISTORY INTERVIEWS
Oral History Interview with Reverend Harley Evan Bailey,
(Wood County) December 5, 1964 , Parkers West Virginia,
by #.L Young, for the John F. Kennedy Library.
Oral History Interview with Alfred Capman (West Virginia dele-
gate at the 1960 Democratic National Convention) February 15,
1965, Wheeling, West Virginia, by William L. Young, for the
John P Kennedy Library_
Oral History Interview with John G Chernenko, (county chairman
0f Brooke County) September 8 1964 , Wellsburg: West Virginia,
by William Ls Young, for the John F . Aennedy Library_
Oral History Interview with Michael G Gretchen, (District 6_-
United Mine Workers Union) February 23 , 1965, Winsdor Heights ,
West Virginia, by William L Young, for the John F Kennedy
Library.
Oral History Interview with Charles M . Love Jr, (Attorney-
at-Law fourteenth district) July 14 , 1964 , Charleston West
Virginia, by William L. Young, for the John F Aennedy Library
burg,
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Oral History Interview with Bob Myers (kennedy Campaign Co_
ordinator) July 11_ 1964, Huntington, West Virginia by
William L Young, for the John F Kennedy Library.
Oral History Interview with Joseph L. Rauh Jr (Humphrey
Campaign Co-ordinator) December 23 =
'1965, Washington;
D.c.,
by Charles 'T Morissey, for the John F Kennedy Library_
Oral Interview with William P Thaw_ (Tyler County) 3isti964]
31, Sisterville , West Virginia, by William L=
Young, for the John F. Kennedy Library.
LETTERS :
Letter, Robert P McDonough to Senator Kennedy, May 19 1958,
"West Virginia Folder,' M' 1n60 Campaign
File8, Pre-Presic
dential Papers Papers of President Kennedy, John F
Kennedy Library.
MEVORANDUVS
iemorandum , Ted Sorenson and Ralph Dungan to Senator John F
Kennedy and Robert. F Kennedy_ April 18 _ 1960, 1960
Campaign Riles_ Pre-Presidential" Papers _ Papers 0f
President Kennedy , John F Kennedy Library
REPORTS
Report_ Bureau of Research and National Council of
the Churches of Christ in the
berVeyted
States of America, #
April 2 , 1960, Pre-Presidential Papers , Papers 0f Presi-
dent Kennedy , John F= Kennedy Library.
Report, Bureau of Research and Survey , National Council of
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the Churches of Shrist in the United States of America,
23, 1959 1960 Campaign Files, Pre-Presidential
Papers _ Papers of President Kennedy , John F Kennedy
Library_
Report, The Fears of Protestantism-- Charles H. Bayer, Mini-
ster Shepard Park Christian, Church, Washington, D,C,,"
Aprii
4 , 1960, Pre-Presidential. Papers , Papers of Presi-
dent Kennedy, John F Kennedy Library.
SPEECHES
Speech John F Kennedy to West Virginia Democrats= April 18 _
1960, "West Virginia Folder, 1v 1960 Campaign Files , Pre -
Presidential Papers _ Papers of President Kennedy , John F
Kennedy Library.
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John F. Kennedy has been referred to Me.
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Mr President:
I ask of you one simple question. Do you have any: plans to
answer the questions still left by the murder 0f President John
Kennedy? lf do you plan to restate past lies _
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facts? 1 have grave doubts about the validity of the Warren
Commission ' s findings that Oswald was the lone assassin. I see no
justificatication for the Goverment' s policy of keeping evidence
locked up in the national capital and Archives; nor can I condone
the autopsy x-rays and photographs . These questions must be answered
before your office can brake the strings of military dominace.
These questions must be answered before people will once again
believe in freedom and justice for al1 There are many people with
a
perticular intrest to these unanswered questions . People that
write to you asking "Who really runs our country?" really have an
intrest to know. 1 hope you have the courage to stand for total
morality. I am very pleased as are others I have talked wi at
your effort to control the military empire that visably runs our
country. Please think on these matters .
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Ma i Ted from Los Angeles Suite 312
Schwartz Building RFCEWEP
17 1977- 520 58th Street
Kenosha Wisconsin
53140
PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER AVe 1 6 9377
Uu Jsonlwo
The White House
Washington
9
D,C. CRMAHRN DW NOn
Re: the assassination 0f Senator Robert F , Kennedy Rec'
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3
Aug
Dear Mr_ President:
As a concerned citizen and being intimately knowledgeable about many of the
circumstances surrounding the assassinations within our country during the past
decade and a half I cons ider it of paramount importance that the American people
be fully informed about the whole truths behind these history-a tering tragedies_
For too Iong now the uncertainties hal f-truths and blatant falsehoods
abeut these events have Ied to widespread frustration and a disrespect for and
Tack of faith in our governmenta] institutions
The Robert Kennedy assassination was attendant th such obstructions by
Ioca] Iaw enforcement officials Proof of this was presented before the Los Angeles
County Board of Supervisors this very
Because of this unacceptable situation,
I have ca]led upon this senior government body to forma] Iy request that you assign
the United States Department of" Justice to enter the Robert Kennedy assassination
matter forthwith, in order to separate fact from fiction through the use 0f object-
ive reasoning and Iogica/ hypotheses ,
In accord with this request_ I implore your assistance through the directing
of the Attorney General to assume ful1 and complete responsibility for the future
handI ing of this matter_
You may be assured of my cooperation and assistance if
deg"eg ZiFrEcend
necessary _
RJJ:mc Respectfully
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of Forensic Sciences
Vice President the Internatonat
Association 0f Forensic Sciences
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1977
CURRICULUM VITAE
NAME Robert John Joling
BORN Lynden , Washington_ U.S.A_
DATE OF BIRTH : PII
MARITAL STATUS Carolyn Rae Hubbard
November 25 1953
CHILDREN Nancy Lee (Joling) Cole (23)
Robert Alan Joling (20)
Karen Ruth Joling (18) iylii ,;;W ,
Scott Raymond Joling (17)
MILITARY SERVICE United States Air Force
1943-46 Pacific Theatre Operations
Ordnance Armament Chemical
Warfare_ & Demolition
Presidential Unit Citation
2nd Air Force = Heavy Bombardment_ B-17 ' s and B- 24 ' s
2Oth Air Force Very Heavy Bombardment B-29,' s
EDUCATION AND DEGREES
Pre-College: Grade School Austinville_ Iowa
Junior High Kenosha Wisconsin
Senior High Kenosha Wiscons in
College: Calvin College Grand Rapids Michigan
Bachelor of Arts Degree 1948
Graduate: Marquette University Law School
Milwaukee Wisconsin
Juris Doctoris 1951
ADMISSIONS TO PRACTICE
Wisconsin State Supreme Court 1951
United States District Courts
Eastern District of Wisconsin 1951
Western District of Wisconsin 1962
State of Arizona 1973
United States Tax Court
1955
United States Circuit Court of Appeals (Tth) 1955
Supreme Court of the United States 1955
PRESENT ADDRESS RIZZO = JOLING & RIZZO S . C _
Suite 312 Schwartz
Building
520 58th Street
Kenosha Wisconsin 53140
Ac 414 658 1621
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PROFESSIONAL AFFILIATIONS
Lepp & Phillips Iaw Firm, Associate 1951-53
Kenosha Wisconsin
Robert J Joling, Sole Proprietor 1953-57
Kenosha Wisconsin
Joling & Hubbard Sr Partner 1957-62
Kenosha Wiscons in
Joling Schwartz & Greco , Sr Partner 1962-67
Kenosha Wisconsin
Baker Juliani stanhope ,
Joling & Greco Sr Partner 1967-71
Kenosha Wisconsin
University of Arizona
College of Medicine Associate Prof _ &
Tucson Arizona Leclurer in Med ' 1
Jurisprudence 1971-75
Special As:; ( to
Acting Dean 1971-73
Legal Advisor to
Adm or Medical
Staff 1971-75.
Med-Sci-Law International Director Sc
Consultants in Medicine , Consultant 1975-76
Science & Law
Tucson Arizona
Rizzo .
Joiing
& Rizzo Law
Firm _ Co-Partner 1976-
Kenosha Wisconsin
PROFESSIONAL MEMBERSHIPS :
Wisconsin State Bar
Association Current
Committee for Integrated
Bar
~Post Graduate Education
Comm
Kenosha County Bar
Association
Executive Committee
1959-60
Interprofessional
Committee
Wisconsin Governor S Committee
on Law Enforcement & Crime ;
Subcommittee on Scientific
Evidence 1967-70
Pima County Bar Association Current
(Associate Arizona)
American Bar Association Current
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Professional Memberships Continued:
American Arbitration
Association Current
American Academy of
Matrimonial Lawyers (F)
American Academy for the
Advancement of Science
American Society of Hospital
Attorneys Current
American College of Legal
Medicine (AL) Current
The International: Association
of Traffic Medicine Current
International Association of
Forensic Science Current
Vice President 1975-78
The British Academy of
Forensic Science Current
Society for Iealth & Human
Values Current
The Forensic Sciences
Foundation Inc 1969-76
-Founder 1969
5 Trustee 1969-76
~Secretary-Treasurer
1969-73
-Chairman of the Board
of Trustees
1973-74
~Member of Project Tean
BNDD 71-20
Narcotic Early Warning
Detection System . 1971-72
Member of Joint Advisory
Committee LEAA
Project #F71-NI-99-0052-G ,
1973-75
Assessment of For _ Sci_
In Crim Justice Process
The American Academy of Forensic
Sciences Current
-Secretary Jurisprudence
Section 1960 & 1973
~Chairman Juris Section
1961
-Council 1960 1973
-Co-Program Chairman 1962
-Editor of What S New In
Forensic Sciences 1964-67
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Professional Memberships Continued:
Executive Conuittee
1968-71 & 1973-76
~Program Chairman 1971
5
Plenary Session Speaker
1962 1963 1968 1976
~Section Program Speaker
1960 _ 1970 1973 1976
~Site Comittee Chairman
1971-76
~Constitution & ByLaws
Committee 1972 , 1973 _
1974
~ Vice President 1973-74
-President Elect 1974-75
-President 1975-76
I Past President 1976 -
The Milton Helpem International
Center for the Forensic
Sciences
AWARDS AND HONORS
1949 The National Honorary Historical Fraternity
for outstanding and conspicuous attainment
in the field 0f History Phi Alpha Theta
1973
5
1974 "Award of Merit" The American Academy
of Forensic Sciences for outstanding contribu-
tions to the field of forensic science
1975 Elected President of The American Academy of
Forensic Sciences for the years 1975-76
1975 Elected Vice-President of The International
Association of Forensic Sciences for the. years
1975-78
1976 "Award of Merit" The American Academy of
Forensic Sciences for outstanding service to
the Academy
LISTINGS :
"Who S Who In The Midwest" Marquis Publication
I7 "The World' s Who S Who In Finance and Industry
Marquis Publication
"Leaders in American Science" Who s Who in American
Ed n Inc Publ
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Listinge_ Continued :
"Personalities of the West and Midwest" Marquis
Publication
"Dictionary of International Biography" Melrose
Press
EDITOR: The International_Bibliography of the Forensic Sciences
Editorial Staff: Jurisprudence Robert J. Joling_
Oliver Schroeder
PUBLISHED JOURNAL ARTICLES
1 Joling Robert J . J.D_ "Legal Commentaries on
Suicide by Fire"' Journal of Forensic Sciences,
Vol 7 No . 4 October T962
2 _ Joling _ Robert J J.D_ "Legal Commentaries on
the Forensic Scientist
in Court" Journal of
Forensic_Sciences, Vol . 8 , No 3 July , 1963 _
3 Joling Robert J. J.D_ "Footprints : Quantum of
Proof"
Journai
of Forensic Sciences , Vol 13
No 2 , April T968 .
4_ Joling Robert J. = J.D "The Modern Concept of
Informed Consent" Arizona Medicine July,1972.
5 _ Joling_ Robert J J.D_ "The Time of Death
Arizona Medicine March , 1973 REPRINTED :
International Barrister October 1973 _
6 Joling Robert J_ J.D_ "Educating the Forensic
Jurisprudent" Journal of Forensic Sciences
April 1974.
7 Joling Robert J J.D_ "Legal Aspects_ of Emergency
Medical Services" Journal of Trauma Vol 15
No 5 1975 .
8 _ Joling Robert J_ J.D_ "Informed Consent Confiden-
tiality and Privilege in Psychiatry The Bulletin
American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law , Vol.TI,
No 2 June 1974.
9 _ Joling . Robert J J.D_ "Socio-Medical and Legal
Aspects of Alcoholism" Arizona Medicine
September , 1974.
May ,
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Published Journal Articles Continued
10 _ Joling Robert J J.D. "Sudden Infant Death:
11 Legal Aspects Proceedings of the Francis E
Camps_ International_Symposium
on Sudden Infant
Death Toronto Canada T974
11_ Joling = Robert J J.D. "Socio-Medical-Legal
Aspects of
Alcoholism"
Proceedings of The 6th
International_Symposium_ on Alcohol Drugs . and
TraFfZc_Safety, Toronto Canada
1974
12 _ Joling Robert J J.D_ "Abortion Breath of
Life" Medical Trial Technique_Quarterly,
Fall, 1974
13 _ Joling, Robert J .
)
J.D_ "Legal Aspects of Sex
Motivated Crimes Published in "Sex Drugs and
Death" s part of the Plenary Sessions of the
3rd Western Conference on Criminal and Civil
Problems Inform, 1974 , Wichita Ka
Copyright , 1975 INFORM , the International
Reference Organization in Forensic Medicine_
14_ Joling Robert J. J.D "The Assassination of
Senator
Robert E Kennedy Published as part
of the Plenary_Proceedings of the 4th International
Conference on Criminal Civil Justice Wichita
Kansas
Copyright , INFORM_ November 1975
15 _ Jol Robert J JaD_ "The JFK Assassination
'Stiii
An Unsolved Murder tery _ Part 111
The
Saturday Evening_ Post December 1975 , The
Curtis Publishing Co Indianapolis Ind 1975 _
16 _ Joling - Robert J_ J.D_ "The Policeman as a Witness"'
Journal of Forensic_Sciences Vol . 21 , No 1 ,
January, T976 .
17 Joling Robert J J.D_ "The Unsolved Murder of
Senator Robert F Kennedy' Argosy_Magazine=
July , 1976 , New York , New York 1976 .
18 _ Joling_ Robert J J.D_ "Problems of Freedom and
1T Responsibility in the Forensic Sciences Vol 21
No 4 October 1976_ Journal of Forensic Sciences
Published as part of the PTenary Session on
Ethics and the Forensic Sciences February 19 , 1976 _
Washington_ D. C .
May
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BOOK REVIEWS
1 Joling_ Robert J . J.D_ "The Physician and the
Law" Reference Long Rowland LLM _ [he Physician
and the Law Third Edition Appleton-Century_
5
Crofts 1968 ; Journal of Forensic Sciences 1969 .
2 . Joling= Robert J J.D "A Review of Criminal Inter-
rogation and Confession Reference: Inbau_ F.E_
and Reid J. Criminal Interrogation and Confession ,
2nd Edition Williams & Williams Co Baltimore
Md 1967; Journal of Forensic_Sciences , Vol . 18 ,
No _ 4 , October 1973 .
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BOOKS
1 Joling _ Robert J. J.D "Medical Jurisprudence in
Medical Schools 1973"
Legal Medicine Annual;
1974 Appleton-Century-Crofts New York ,
369-394 -
2 _ Joling= Robert J_ J.D "Authority to Examine and
Dispose of the Dead" Chapter 9 Gradwohl ' s 3rd
Edition _ Legal_ Medicine; Co-authors Lucas
Bernard M.D= and Camps (Robinson) Anne M.D_
Wright Publ Co London England_ Pp 106-108
1976
3 Joling Robert J J.D. "Therapeutic and Criminal
Abortion"
'chapt
ter 23 Gradwohl' 8 3rd Edition,
Legal Medicine Co-authors Lucas Bernard
M.D and Camp s (Robinson) Anne M. D Wright
Publ Co London England
390-394 1976 _
4 Joling , Robert J J.D_ "Sexual Offenses _ Divorce
and Nullity Chapter 23 _ Gradwohl ' s 3rd Edition _
Legal _Medicine Co-authors Lucas Bernard _
M.D and Camps (Robinson) Anne M.D_ Wright
Pubi' Co _ London _ England Pp _ 405-408 , 1976 ,
5 _ Joling_ Robert J J.D_ Relating to Medical
Practice in the
United
States 11 Chapter 26
Gradwohl S 3rd Edition _ Legal_Medicine Co-
authors Lucas = Bernard_ M D and Camp s
(Robinson) Anne M.D Wright Publ Co London
England _ 419-429 _ 1976-
6 Joling- Robert J. J.D_ "Property of the Dead Body"
Forensic
Medicine:
A Study in Trauma and
Environmental Hazards Ed : Tedeshi W . B Saunders
Co Pubi. PhiTadelphia
'
London & Toronto , 1977
7 Joling = Robert J J.D_ "The Pain Patient : Medicolegal
Aspects" 0
Chapter' 15 ,
Management of Pain Co-
author Brown Burnell R MD John Wiley &
Sons Publ _ Scheduled for publication 1977
8 Joling= Robert J_ J.D_ "The_Legal Responsibilities
of the Practicing_Physician_
to be published in
earTy 1977 by PinecTiff
Publishing
Company =
)
Pacific
Palisades _ California
Pp _
Pp _
"Law
Pp _
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PUBLISHED OP INIONS :
1 Joling _ Robert J J.D_
"Dispensing
or
Prescribing
Controlled Drugs or Medications Journal of
Legal_Medicine Official publication of The
American
ToTTege
of Legal Medicine 1975 _
EDUCATIONAL VIDEOTAPES
1 Joling_ Robert J J.D_ "Medical Negligence" a
Medical Jurisprudence Educational Production ,
University of Arizona_College of Medicine
Multi-media _Library, Tuc son Arizona 1973 _
2 Joling Robert J. J.D_ "Medical Jurisprudence"
a Medical Jurisprudence Educational Production
for Medical Educators planning implementation
of Medical Jurisprudence into the Curriculum
University of Arizona_College of Medicine Multi-
media Library, Tucson Arizona T973
3 _ Joling _ Robert J_ J,D_ "Informed Consent" a
Medical Jurisprudence Educational Production
University of Arizona College of Medicine Muiti-
Nedia Library; Tucson
)
Arizona T974
4 _ Joling_ Robert J_ J.D_ "Contracts A Medical
Jurisprudence Educational Production for Physicians ,
University of Arizona_College__ of Medicine Multi-
media Library; Tucson, Arizona T974
MEDICOLEGAL EDUCATIONAL VIDEOTAPED SEMINARS
1 Joling, Robert J. J.D Producer November 1972
Series Title: "X-Rated Emotions I
Program Title: Battered Baby Syndrome
Participants Dr C . Henry Kempe Dr Maier I
Tuchler Attorney Henry Rothbiatt-
Synopsis An overall view of the battered child
including definition why a child battered _
who does the battering past and present
statistics and characteristics of battering
parents Need for changes on behalf of parent
and child, The psychotherapy and psycho-
pa thology _ focus on intervention role-
reversal comprehension_ neglect and abuse
together with rejection Need for child
assistance Questions and Answers
Availability: Multi-media Library University_of
Arizona ColTege of Medicine Tucson Arizona
T972
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Medicolegal Educational Videotaped Seminars_Continued:
2 . Joling _ Robert J. J.D_ Producer 1973
Series Title: "The Philosophy of Dying'
Program Title: "The Physician S Role in the
Problem of the Dying Patient"
Participants Dr Jeffrie Murphy (Ph. D) David
Ogden_ M.D Charles Zukoski M.D_
Synopsis Exploration of philosophy of death,
the role 0f homotransplants social and
legal situations attendant to death _
Availability: Multi-media Library University
of Arizona CoTlege of Medicine Tucson
Arizona T9T3
3 _ Joling _ Robert J_ J.D_ Producer 1973
Series Title: "Environmental Suicide"
Program Title: "Man and His Environment"
Participants Dr Arthur Grollman and Charles
Wilber Ph . D
Synopsis : Problems of environmental pollution
and overpopulation _ Toxic effects of pollutants
research toward search for cure consideration
of damaging effects on brain and controlled
technological advances Polluted waters the
aquatic ecosystem reversal process of pollution _
Availability: Multi-media Library University
of Arizona CoTTege of Medicine Tucson Arizona
1973
4 _ Joling _ Robert J_ J.D_ Producer 1973
Series Title: "Emergency Medical Services
Program Title "Organiza tion of the Emergency
Room Department
Participants Leonard Peltier, M.D. Christopher
J_ Heller M.D_
Synopsis Function of the emergency, room the
need for change to strictly emergency care
and need for 24 hour outpatient clinic. Future
role of the Emergency Room and its
responsibilities
to the community Training record keeping_
organization_ responsibility size
physicai
make-up of department
technical
expertise_
and requirements of physicians _ The
pathologists
role in E.R_ care
Availability: Multi-media Library University of
Arizona_ColTege of Medicine Tucson , Arizona
1973 .
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Medicolegal Educational Videotaped Seminars Continued:
5 . Joling_ Robert J J.D_ Producer 1973
Series Title: "Environmental Suicide"
Program Title: "The Pathological Effects 0f
Pollutants
Par ticipants_ James T . Weston M.D_ Emanual
Tanay , M.D
Synopsis Parameters of traffic deaths Man _
environment and death Psychiatric patho-
logical surgical_ engineering and emergency
services The
roie
of the psychiatrist in
obtaining a quality environment
Availability: Multi-media_Library University_ of
Arizona
ColTege
o Medicine Tuc son , Arizona
1973_
6 _ Joling . Robert J _ J,D_ Producer 1973
Series Title: Emergency Medical Services
Program Title: sonnel Utilization in 'the
Emergency Room Department"
Participants Fiscella R.N_ Gerald Looney
M.D and Arnold J_ Arem M,D.
Synopsis : The function of the nurse _ physicians
assistants and the physician in training as
they relate to the emergency room
Availability: Multi-media_Library_ University_of
Arizona_Colfege of Medicine Tucson Arizona
1973
7 Joling Robert J J.D. Producer 1973
Series Title: "Emergency Medical Services"
Program Title: "Role of the Cardiologist and Current
Treatment for Cardiac Arrest"
Participants Louis J Kettel = M.D_ and Gordon: A
M.D_
Synopsis Focused primarily on current treatment
for cardiac arrest using mobile coronary care
unit Stresses need for extending emergency
care out of hospital environment Describes
current care statistics and effect of immediate
care_ The Patient in Acute Respiratory Distress
with general concepts on how to attack problems _
Availability:
Multi-media Library University of
Arizona_College of Medicine Tucson Arizona
1973 .
"Per
Kay
Ewy
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Medicolegal Educational Videetaped Seminars Continued:
8 Joling _ Robert J_ J.D_ Producer 1973
Ii Series Title: 'Emergency Medical Services"
Program Title: "Problems and Pitfalls in Recognizihg
Acute Abdomens in the Emergency Room
Participants : William F Holsey , M.D Paul R.
Finley , M.D_ and David M. Paul M.D_ (Her
Majesty S Coroner of London England)
Synopsis Divided into two parts : Acute abdomens
in non-trauatic situations and those secondary
to trauma Diagnostic requirements history ,
evaluation and physical exam Symp toms of
patients with acute abdomens Trauma and its
relation to Fat Embolism History of fat
embolism cases present research and statistics _
Specific function f Department of Pathology_
Availability Multi-media Library_University_of
Arizona ColTege of Medicine Tucson Arizona
1973 _
9 _ Joling , Robert J., J.D_ Producer 1974
Series Title: The Assassinations of the Past
Decade
Program Title: "The Assassination of President
John F Kennedy
Participants : Robert J . Joling , JaD. and Cyril
H Wecht M. D
Synopsis : Film slides photographs_ charts of
major findings 0f the Warren Commission Report _
Questions and Answers
Availability: Multi-media Library_University_of
Arizona ColTege of Medicine Tucson Arizona
1974 =
10 _ Joling_ Robert J J.D:_ Producer 1974
Series Title: "Dying Is For Everyone"
Program Title: "Dying is a Problem for Young and
Old"
Participants
;
David Ogden M.D_ Oliver Schroeder Jr
J.D_
Synopsis : Experience with patient ' 8 having kidney
disease Educating the patient_ moral and
ethical issues role of the physician Kidney
replacement and related problems Discussing
the process of dying with that of living _
Abortions transplants wrongful deaths with
economic and socio-political issues The
choices and who makes them
Availability: Multi-media Library_University_ of
Arizona_College of Medicine Tucson Arizona
1974
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Medicolegal Educational Videotaped Seminars Continued:
11 Joling , Robert J J.D. Producer_ 1974
Series Title "Dying Is For Everyone
Program Title: "Preparing the Doctor and the Nurse
to Handle the Inevitable"
Participants Robert Anderson M.D_ Cyril H.
Wecht M.D_ Oliver Schroeder Jr J.D
David Ogden_ M.D_ Robert J Joling_ J.D.
Synopsis Discusses why physicians and nurses
often have inappropriate emotional responses to
death_ Personal and social involvement and
responsibility The chronological and
medicolegal aspect of the process of dying
Focus on question of when does death occur and
how this relates to transplants Questions
and Answers
Availability: Multi-media Library University_of
Arizona College of Medicine Tucson Arizona
1974
12 Joling = Robert J_ J.D= Producer 1974
Series Title: "Time of Death"
Program Title: "Is Society Ready to Face the
Reality of Terminal Treatment ?"
Participants The Honorable William Oscar
Thorup , M.D_ Willard Pedrick, J.D_
Synopsis Describes
terminal treatment 18 a
legal as well as medical problem focusing on
rights of individual decreed by the courts
Outlines responsibility for terminal treatment
and legal support the medical doctor S
dilemna the definitions of death _ metaphysical
and legal determinants and the need for more
Precise tests to determine when death occurs
Availability: Multi-media Library_ University of
Arizona Co] ot Medicine Tucson Arizona _
T97z-
13_ Joling _ Robert J J.D_ Producer 1974
Series Title: "The Physician
S Role with the
Dying Patient"
Program Title: "Maintaining the Integrity of the
Profession"
Participants Robert Anderson M.D_ Oliver
Schroeder Jr J.D_ Maier I Tuchler M,D_
Synopsis Transference of uncomfortableness by
physician to nurse or
family_ Phases of
death_ right to life VS right to die, with
Frey ,
Tege
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Medicolegal Educational Videotaped Seminars Continued:
differences noted in death when talking in the
scientific legal political social economic_
familial individual and cultural veins
Medical Electives for the terminally i11
patient and physician S
responsibility_
Avai lability: Multi-media Library Univers of
Arizona_College of Medicine Tucson Arizona
T974 =
14. Joling Robert J J.D_ Producer 1974
Series Title: "Physician 5
Role with the Dying
Patient"
Program Title: "Children Die Too [ "
Participants High Thompson M.D_ Paul Wainscott ,
M.D and Herbert Pollack , M.D .
Synopsis Developmental stages of death recognition
in child Attitude and method of approach
for physician towards child siblings' parents
preceeding and at time of death_ The defined
role of the physician as it relates to family
at time of death. Educa the professional
on human behavior and development
Availability University of Arizona_College of
Medicine MuTEi-media Library' Tucson Arizona
1974
15 _ Joling _ Robert J
9
J.D_ Producer 1974
Series Title: "Time of Death"
Program Title: "The . Right
to Die"
Participants Jeffrie Murphy Ph . Da Honorable
William Frey_ Oscar Thorup , M.D . Willard
Pedrick_ J,D
Synopsis The philosophical perspectives and the
right to die , exploring the philesophy of:
death, what people need as they face death,
the legal aspects of death social institutions
and death -
Availabili Multi-media_Library_ University of
Arizona College 0f Medicine Tucson , Arizona
1974
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Medicolegal Educational Videotaped Seminars Continued:
16 _ Joling Robert J J.D_ Producer 1974
Series Title: "Death and the Pathologist"
Program Title: "Cultural Attitudes Toward the
Human Body
Participants Edward Brucker M.D David Paul
(her Majesty S Coroner of London England)
William Willard Ph. D.
Synopsis Three different cultural attitudes
toward the human body Native American Indian =
Mexican , and_ Anglo Saxon Legal way bodies
can be used for autopsy The English Coroner
System_ the American Coroner System and
the present Arizona Coroner System
e"56i574) .
Availability: University of Arizona College_of
Medicine MulEizmedia Library, Tucson _ Arizona
T974_
17 _ Joling, Robert J., J.D Producer 1974
Series Title: "Death and the Pathologist"
Program Title: State Medical Investigator
17 System
Participants James T Weston , M.D_
)
Milton Helpern_
M.D_
Synopsis The medical investigator system in
several states and cities Interrelationship
to other sections of government _ Questions
and Answers
Availability Multi-media University_of
Arizona ColTege of Medicine
Aites uckoi,
Arizona
1974
18 _ Joling_ Robert J_ J.D_ Producer 1974
Series Title: "The Battered Child"
Program Title: "The Police and the Battered Child"
Participants Detective Dan Newman Tucson City
Police Department
Synopsis Legal and social responsibilities of
the police relating
to child parent and
guardian _ Dilemna
facing poiice
Availability: Multi-media Library_ University of
Arizona ColTege of Medic ine Tucson AArizona
1974
19_ Joling. Robert J.
)
J.D_ Producer 1974
Series Title: "The Battered Child"
Program Title: "The Pediatrician and the Battered
Baby'
day
"The
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Medicolegal Educational Videotaped Seminars Continued:
Par ticipants : Hugh Thompson , M.D. George Comerci _
M.D_
Synopsis : Role of pediatrician and other health
practitioners in with battered child .
Frustrations
enocioaf
reactions ethical
dilemna psychological aspects in treating
the
chiid and confronting the parents or
guardian. The realities broad spectrum , and
the rights of child and parents in light of
child S needs
Availability: Multi-media Library_ Univesity of
Arizona College of Medicine Tucson Arizona
1974
20 _ Joling, Robert J J.D_ Producer 1974
Series Title: "The Battered Child"
Program Title: "Questions and Answers Relating
to
the Battered Child"
Participants John Caffey_ M.D_ Daniel Newman
Sgt Hugh Thompson M.D_ George Comerci M.D_
Synopsis Questions and answers relating to the
problems arising from the battering of a child.
Availability: Multi-media Library__University_of
Arizona_ColTege of Medicine Tucson Arizona
T974
21_ Jol Robert J
9
J.D_ Producer 1974
Series Title: "Sudden Infant
Death Syndrome
Program Title: "S . I.D.S . and the Pediatrician"
Participants Thomas Harris _ M.D. Larry Lewman
M D
Synopsis Conditions pathological findings
ediology, parentai
response in sudden infant
death cases State Medical Examiner System
and the reporting of SIDS in Oregon Education
0f nurses physicians parents _ paramedics
police and social agency employees involved in
SIDS
Availability: Multi-media LibraryUniversity of
Arizona_College of Medicine Tucson Arizona ,
T974
22 Joling, Robert J_ J.D_ Producer 1974
Series Title: "Sudden Infant Death Syndrome
Program Title: "Sleep Apnea in SIDS"
Participants : William Curran J D LLM Alfred
Steinschneider M.D_
Synopsis Theory of physiological changes during
sleep emphasizing sleep apnea as a part of
ing,
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Medicolegal Educational Videotaped Seminars Continued
and not entire cause of SIDS The Law and
SIDS emphasizing legal problems questions
of disease crime autopsy
police involvement .
Availability Multi-media Library, University
of Arizona CoTlege_
0f Medicine Tucson,
Arizona T974
23 _ Joling, Robert J.
)
J.D_ Producer 1974
N Series Title: "Sudden Infant Death Syndrome"
Program Title: "Questions and Answers Relating
to SIDS"
Participants : William Curran, LLM _ Thomas Harris
M D Larry Lewman = M.D . Alfred Steinschneider M.]
Synopsis Questions and Answers given relative
to
problems arising in SIDS
Availability: Multi-media Library University of
Arizona College of Medicine_ Tucson , Arizona
1974
24 _ Joling _ Robert J_ J.D_ Producer _ 1975
Series Title: "Assa8sinations of the Past Decade"
Program Title: "The Assassination of Dr Martin
11 Luther King'
Participants Jerry T_ Francisco M.D_
Synopsis Presentation of the medicolegal findings
associated with the death of Dr; Martin Luther
King Jr Includes illustrative material
to some perspective 0f the circumstances _
situation and geography of the shooting as
well as facts surrounding the a8sassination
Availability: Multi-media Library_University of
Arizona ColTege 0j Medicine Tucson Arizona 1975 .
25 _ Joling= Robert J. J.D Producer 1975
Series Title: "The Assassination of Senator Robert
Kennedy"
Program Title: "Ballistic Determinants in the
Assassination of Senator Kennedy"
Participants Robert J. Joling, J.D_ Thomas
Noguchi M. D Herbert MacDonell B. S _
Synopsis An
expiana
tion of the alleged differences
of bullets found in the body of Senator Kennedy
Newsman Wesiel and the gun of Sirhan The
autopsy findings are discussed and involvement
of the forensic pathologist _
Availability: Multi-media Library University of
Arizona ColTege of Medicine Tucson , Arizona
1975 .
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Medicolegal Educational Videotaped Seminars Continued:
26 _ Joling _ Robert J J.D_ Producer 1975
Series Title: "The Assassination of Senator Robert
Kennedy"
Program Title: "Neutron Activation Analysis of
Bullet rragments in the Assassination of
Robert Kennedy"
Participants Vincent P _ Guinn Ph D_ Milton
Helpern M.D Godfrey Isaac J.D_
Synopsis Explains the Process of Neutron
Activation Analysis Bullets Eired during
the assassination of Senator Kennedy not
subjected to NAA and speaker recommends in
future assassinations of this magnitude the
same be utilized_
Availability: Multi-media_Library,_University_ of
Arizona ColTege of Medicine, Tucson Arizona
1975 =
27 _ Joling. Robert J. J.D_ Producer 1975
Series Title: "The Assassination of Senator Robert
F . Kennedy"
Program Title "'Questions and Answers to the
Assassination of Senator Kennedy
Participants Milton Helpern_ M.D_ Godfrey
Isaac, J.D_ Vincent P Guinn Ph. Da Herbert
MacDonell B.S ;
Synopsis :
Audience participation in questions and
answers
placed to par ticipants in program_
Availability University
of Arizona College of
Medicine MulEi-media Library; Tucson Arizona
1975
28 Joling _ Robert J. J.D_ Producer 1975
11 Series Title: "Tracing
the 12 Cranial Nerves
Program Title: "Dissection of the Human Brain"
Participants Andrew Cyrus M,D
Synopsis A neuropathological dissection of the
brain tracing the 12 cranial nerves is
demonstrated with explanation of functions
of various sections of the brain and disease
recognition
Availability University of Arizona College, of
Medicine Multi-media Library , Tucson Arizona
1975 _
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Medicolegal Educational Videotaped Seminars_Continued:
29 . Joling , Robert J_ J.D Producer 1975
Series Title: "The Medicolegal Investigation of
Death"
Program Title: Pos tmortem Examination in a
Suspected Overdose Death"
Participants Milton Helpern M.D
Synopsis : A 3 hour and 15 minute step by step
procedure in performing a medicolegal
autopsy is illustrated by former medical
examiner of New York City
Availability: Multi-media Library_University_of
Arizona College of Medicine Tucson , Arizona
1975
EDUCATIONAL RADIO PROGRAMS
1 Joling_ Robert J_ J.D_ 11 Informed Consent" Physician' &
Radio Network _ New York, New York, 1974 .
2 _ Joling , Robert J J.D_ "Medical Negligence"
Physician S Radio Network, New York , New York ,
T974
3 _ Joling . Robert J., J.D_ "The Medicolegal Report"
Physician S Radio Network New York, New York
T97z
4 Joling _ Robert J._ J.D_ 'Malpractice Myths"
Physician S Radio Network New York , New York ,
T974
5 _ Joling = Robert J_ J.D_
)
"Legal Concepts of Res Ipsa
Loquitur as Applied to Daily Medical Practice
Physician S Radio Network_ New York , New York ,
1974
6 _ Joling = Robert J. J.D_ "The Patient ' s Rights"
Physician S Radio Network , New York , New York ,
1974
7 Joling _ Robert J J D_ "Malpractice by Unfulfilled
I Assurances" Physician
S Radio Network New York,
New York, 1975.
8 _ Joling_ Robert J, J.D. "Malpractice: Are Sponge
Counts Really Necessary2" Physician S Radio
Network, New York, New York T975 _
"A
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Educational Radio Programs Continued:
21 Joling_ Robert J. J.D_ "Operating in Presence of
Elevated Temperature" Physician S Radio Networki
New York, New York , 1976 ,
22 . Joling_ Robert J . J,D for Failure to
Diagnose and Treat Physician S Radio Network
New York, New York, 1976
23 _ Joling. Robert J. J.D "Failure to Report Battered
Child Syndrome' Physician S Radio Network ,
1976 _
24 _ Joling Robert J_ JD_ "The Value of A Chance"
Physician S Radio Network_ New York , New York_
1976 .
25 _ Joling Robert J JD_ "Pointers on
Giving Testimony"
Physician S Radio Network New York New York
1976_
26 _ Joling Robert J . J.D_ "Physician and the Technologist :
X-Radiation ExposureS Physician S Radio Network_
New York, New York, 1976 ,
27 _ Joling_ Robert J. J.D "Reading Nurses Notes"
Physicians_ Radio Network _ New York , New York ,
1976 _
28 Joling_ Robert J J,D: High The Standard of
Care? Only The Jury Knows ! " Physician S Radio
Network New York_
)
New York , 1976 _
29 . Joling_ Robert J_ J.D Not Sue The Hospital
Instead of the Doctor?" Physician S Radie
Network New York , New York , T976 _
30 _ Joling_ Robert J. J.D_ "Should Minor Retardates
Be
Sterilized?"
Physician S Radio Network , New
York , New York, 1976
31_ Joling _ Robert J_ J.D_ "Why Record Negative
Findings?" Physician_ S Radio Network New York ,
New York, 1976 ,
32 _ Joling, Robert J J.D_ 'Hospital Incident Reports
are Not For Casual Observers | 01 Physician S
Radio
Network _ New York, New York , 1976
"Liability
"How
"Why
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Educational Radio Programs Continued:
33 _ Joling , Robert J J.D_ "The Karen Quinlan Case:
No Panacea for Practitioners Physician S Radio
Network_ New York , New York ,
1976._
34 . Joling_ Robert J J.D_ "Blood: Sale or Service
Statutes Do
Not Ruie
Out Negligence 1i Physician S
Radio Network, New York, New York ,
1976.
35 _ Joling_ Robert J_ J.D_ "Birth Control Pills More
Than a Headache" S Radio Network ,
New York, New York _
2hygza en
36 _ Joling = Robert J. J.D_ "Psychic Trauma To Onlookers
Can Result in
Liabiiity'
Physician 5 Radio Network _
New York_ New York , 1976 .
37 Joling_ Robert J . J.D "Abandonment" Physician S
Radio Network New York, New York , [976 -
38 _ Joling, Robert J . J.D_ "Medical Records Do Differ"
Physician S
Radio
Network New York , New York , 1976 .
39 _ Joling . Robert J. J.D_ "Emergency Room Medical Records"
Physician S
Radio
Network _ New York, New York , 1976 _
40 _ Joling Robert J. J.D_ Informed Consent The Legitimate
11 Child of Assault and Battery Physician S
Radie
Network, New York, New York ,
i977.
41_ Joling, Robert J J D_ "Do You Advise Patients to
Settle Accident Cases ? If You Do You Lose |"
Phys ician S Radio Network, New York , New
York, 1977 .
42 _ Joling = Robert J. JaD_ "Unsuccessful Therapeutic
Abortion Can
Lead
To Litigation Physician S Radio
Network, New York, New
York, 1977 _
LECTURES :
1 Case-Western Reserve University , Cleveland , Ohio , 1967
2 University of Wisconsin 1968
3 _ Kenosha County Bar Association (Wisconsin) 1968 _
1969 _ 1970
4_ Racine County Bar Association _ 1969 _ 1970 (Wisconsin)
5 _ Walworth County Bar Association (Wisconsin) 1970
6 Ohio Northern Law School Lima Ohio 1970
American Trial Lawyer S Association Chicago , Ill 1968
University of Chicago Illinois 1968
9 University of Illinois Ill 1968
10. American ' Academy of Forensic Honolulu ,
Hawaii 1968
11. American Trial Lawyer S Association_ Milwaukee , Wis 1969
12 Life Underwriters Association Milwaukee Wisconsin 1970
13 KTI Audio-Visual and TV Lecture Series on Civil
Procedure 1970
May
ChicagCiences
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Lectures Continued:
14. Arizona Life Underwriters Association_ Phoenix_
Arizona 1971
15 . Belli Seminars Portland = Oregon , 1971
16 . American Academy of Forensic Sciences Phoenix,
Arizona 1971
17 _ Arizona Medical Association , Phoenix Arizona 1972
18 4th International Institute of Traffic Medicine_
Paris France 1972
19 . University of Amsterdam _ The Netherlands 1972
20 _ University of London Hospital London England 1972
21 . University of Edinl Wh, Scotiand 1972
22 . 6th International Meeting of Forensic Sciences
Edinburgh, Scotland 1972
23 . The 2nd Western Conference on Criminal and Civil
Problems Wichita . Kansas 1972
24. Arizona Medical Association Con tinuing Ed n Seminar
Tucson Arizona 1972
25 . Pima College Nur School , 1972
26 _ Arizona Medical Association Phoenix, Arizona 1973
27 American Trial Lawyer S Association Las Vegas_
Nevada 1973
28 _ American Academy of Forensic Sciences Las Vegas =
Nevada 1973
29 . Arizona Medical Association Cont: Ed ' n Seminar
Tucson _ Arizona 1973
30 . Pima College , Tucson Arizona 1973
31. Southwestern
Clinicai
Pharmacy Convention 1973
32 . Update 1973 Seminar on the Nurse & the Law
Tucson Arizona 1973
33 . Western Regional Group on Student Affairs Asilomar
California 1973
34 . Arizona Medical Ass n Conference on Med ' 1
Malpractice and Arbitration 1973
35 _ Arizona Association of Laboratory Technicians 1973
36 . Arizona
Hospital Engineers Association 1973
37 _ Medicolegal Photographers Association 1973
38 _ American Academy of Forensic Sciences Dallas
Texas 1974
39 , American College of Surgeons Trauma Comittee 1974
40 . Arizona State Department of Health 1974
41. Psychiatry and the Law Seminars Phoenix, Arizona
1974
42 . American Academy of Psychiatry & the Law , Phoenix,
Arizona 1974
43 . Institute on Human Values in Medicine Galveston ,
Texas 1974 (U of Texas)
44. Society of Nuc lear Medicine San Diego California 1974
45 . International Symposium on Sudden Infant Death ,
Toronto Canada 1974
46 . 3rd Western Conference on Criminal & Civil Problems
Wichita Kansas 1974
47 _ San Diego Psychiatric Ass n , San Diego , CA 1974
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Lectures Continued:
48 _ Lakeside Area Committee for Cont . Ed _ Lakeside
Az 1974
49 . University of Florida_ Gainesville , Dep t Comm _
Health 1974
50 _ 6th Int 1 Symp _ on Alcohol Drugs 6 Traffic Safety.
Toronto _ Canada 1974
51_ Case Western Reserve University , Cleveland_ Ohio
1974
52 . Allegheny County Police Training Academy Pittsburgh,
Pa 1974
53. 4th Annual LPN Seminar Cardiac Patient , Am _
Heart Ass n , Tucson Az _ 1974
54. MSL Series Traua Seminar Tucson Az 1974
55 . Case Western Reserve University , Cieveland, Ohio 1975
56 . Harvard University Cambridge, Mas s 1975
57 Southern Methodist University Dallas Texas 1975
58 Stanford University San Francisco Ca 1975
59 _ California State University San Francisco, Ca 1975
60 University of California Berkely 1975
61 _ University of California Los Angeles 1975
62 _ University of Florida Gainesville 1975
63 _ Arizona Laboratory Techologists_ Casa Grande . Az _ 1975
64 _ Pima County Public Health Nurses Association 1975 (Az)
65 Practicing Law Institute . San Francisco Ca 1975
66 _ American Academy of Forensic Sciences Chicago
Illinois 1975
67 _ Sth Western Conference on Civil & Criminal Justice ,
Wichita Ka . 1975
68 _
Nationai Association of Medicolegal Photographers
Phoenix Az - 1975
69 _ T.C_
Wiiliams School of Law _ University 0f Richmond_
Richmond Va 1975
70 _ Anerican Academy of Forensic Sciences_ Washington
D. C . 1976
71. Allegheny County Police Training Academy_ Pittsburgh ,
Pa _ 1976 (Mar & Sept . )
72 _ Case Western Reserve University Cleveland Ohio 1976
73 . Hamilton College New York_ Ithaca New York 1976
74 . International Association of Med ' 1 Techn. & Lab
Tech & ASMT Chicago 1976
75 _ George Washington-iniversity , Department of Forensic
Sciences D. C _ 1976
76 . Case Western University , Cleveland , Ohio 1977
May
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UNPUBLISHED OP INIONS & CONSULTATIONS
In excess of 100 unpublished written Opiniong having
medicolegal import have been given in reply to individual requests
from Hospital Administrators , Nurses , Lawyers and other allied
health personnel .
ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES :
1 . The International Association of Forensic Sciences
A_ Vice President 1975-78
Responsibilities include budgetary considerations
2
23)
Oversee policies and programs
2 The American Academy of Forensic Sciences
As Secretary and Chairman of Jurisprudence Section
1) Responsibilities included program and
2) Financial considerations
B . Editor of What S New in Forensic Sciences
1) Responsibilities included edi and
2) Arranging for layout and publication
costs
C . Executive Committee Member
1) Responsibilities included policy determinations and
2) Fiscal accountability and
3 ) General Management of Organization
D_ Vice President President Elect President
1) Responsibilities included management of policies
2) Carrying out fiscal policies and
3) General Management of All Organizational Problems
3 _ The Forensic Sciences Foundation Inc _
A_ Founder
1) Responsibilities included organizational and
incorporation
2) Policy determinations
3 ) Tax Exempt Status (501-c)
4) Establishment of ByLaws and charter
B Secretary-Treasurer
1) Responsibilities included corporate correspondence
2) Carrying out initial fiscal determinations
3) Keeping records and accounting
C . Chairman of the Board of Trustees
1) Responsibilities included chairing meetings
2) Carrying out assigned corporate duties 6 policies
D_ Trustee
1) Determining functional matters
2) Policies
3) Advisor relative to government projects
Administrative
policies
on Federal Grants
ting
4)
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Administrative Activities Continued:
4 The University of Arizona College of Medicine
A_ Legal Consultant
1) Responsibilities included advising the Dean
2 ) Advisor to Acting Dean
3) Consultant to Medical Staff & House Staff
4 Advisor to Administrators
5) Writing Policies_ Consents _ ByLaws
COMUNITY ACTIVITIES :
1. Symphony Orchestra
A. Board of Directors
Bs Legal Counsel
2 _ Optimist International
A: President (Local Chapter Kenosha , Wisconsin)
B Regional Representative
3 _ Little League Baseball
A Advisory Board
4 County Conservation Club
A Advisory Board
B . Legal Counsel
5 . United Presbyterian Church of America
A= Deacon
HOBBIES & INTERESTS
1 S Color Photography
2 Fishing
3 _ Flying
4 Golf
5 . Singing & Music
LICENSES (Examinations Required)
1 Attorney at Law
2 _ Automobile
3 _ Radio-Telephone Operator
4_ Motorcycle
5 Single Engine Land Airplane
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WRITTEN OPINIONS ADMINISTRATIVE CONSULTATIONS
1 Hospital Incident Reports
2 _ Hospital Constitution & Bylaws
3 _ Hospital Staff ByLaws
4 _ Hospital Policies & Procedures
5 , Hospital Consent Forms
6 _ Courtroom Use of Library Materials
7 Powers of Attorney
8 _ Disposal of State Personal Property
9 _ Legal Aspects of Purchas
10_ Disposition of Bullet from Patient
11. Consent for Research Study of Enzymes
12 . Abortion Decisions and Regulations
13_ Consent to Treat Minor in Custody of Care Center
14. Continuing Treatment Under Consent of Parents to
Treat Minor
15 . HEW Obligated Funds Appropriated in P. L. 92-334
16. Conditions of Admission to Hospital
17 Educational Service Agreement ; Health Profession
Scholarship Program
18 . Sponge Counts ; Utilization of Surgical Technician
19_ Donor Consent for Minor Mexican National
20 . Admission Referrals
21 Medical Malpractice Insurance
22 _ Articles of Incorporation for Marana Community Clinic
23 _ Barry Plan : Effect on Medical School Graduates after
July 1973
24_ Cont- inuing Consent for Hemodialysis
25 _ The Role of the Physician S Assistant under Arizona Law
26 _ The Role of Technicians Within the Hospital
27 _ Estates Donations or Beneficiary
28 Malpractice Coverage for Non-auxiliary Volunteers
29 _ Validity of Accounts Due
30 . Complaints and Grievances' Involving Medical Doctor
31 . Uniform Anatomical Gift Acts
32 Certificates of Resolution for National Foundation
Grants
33 _ Volunteer Services Hospital Auxiliary
34 . Contracts with Health Planning Authority
35 . Legal Status of Fellows Academic Rank
36 . Pharmacy Regulations
37 _ Medical Records
38 . Community and University Agreements
39 . Treatment of University Students : Medical
40 _ Wages and Salary: What Constitutes Either?
41 Legal Function & Status of Interns & Residents as
Hospital Employees
42 _ Emergency Requests for Unmatched or Uncros smatched
Blood
ing
Slug
Day
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Written Opinions Administrative Consultations Continued:
43 . Proposed Emergency Rescue Procedures in Heart Attack
Cases
44 . Medical Service Plan
45 . Autopsy: Infant of Minor Unwed Mother
46 . Labor and Minimum Wage Law for Technicians
47 The Unconscious Patient & Blood Sampling : Need for
Consent
48 . Health Maintenance Organizations
49 _ Hospital Committees
50 Emergency Room Procedures
51 University Parking Regulations
52 Domestic Relations Problems of Students
53 Student Disciplinary Action: Due Process
54 . Student Admission Policies Medical School
55 The Role of the Phys ical Therapist
56 . Student Problems Landlord & Tenant
57 _ Student Problems Personal Injury
58 . Traffic Citations Students and Faculty
59 _ Hospital Interrelationships with Student Health Facilities
60 . Institutional Review Committee
61 Implementation of Medical Jurisprudence into Curriculum
62 _ Annual Re-inspection for Licensure
63 _ Master Hospital Agreements
64 _ Handling of Subpoenas
65 , Assis Injured Mexican Nationals : Personal Injury
Recovery
66 . Unnecessary Delay in Signing Birth Certificates &
Death Certificates
67 _ Laws Affecting Medical Treatment of Minors without
Parental Consent
68 _ The Age of Majority: Emancipation of Minors
6.9 _ Payment of Accounts by Parents of Minor S
Legal Liability
70 . Claims Against Estate for Services Rendered Deceased
71. Use of Hexaclorophene in Infant Bathing
72 Liability for Infection from Unclean or Non-sterile
Instruments
73 _ Hospital Bacteria Producing Agents
74. Defective Instruments Latent Defects & Strict Liability
75 _ Dispensing Methotrexate
76 . Interns & Residents Working at other Hospitals
77 _ Suprapubic Bladder Aspiration in Babies
78 _ Primary and Secondary Insurance Coverage
79 Alcohol Influence Report Forms
80 _ Emp loyment of Aliens in Public Institutions
81 _ The Use of Medical Technicians in the Emergency Room
82 _ Consent for Special Experimental Procedures
83 _ Standards fur Purchase Orders Terms & Conditions
ting